{"created_at":"2018-02-01T21:40:43.470Z","post_id":379377,"previous_hidden":false,"current_hidden":false,"first_revision":2,"previous_revision":2,"current_revision":3,"next_revision":4,"last_revision":28,"current_version":3,"version_count":25,"username":"pfaffman","display_username":"pfaffman","acting_user_name":"Jay Pfaffman","avatar_template":"/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/pfaffman/{size}/120154_2.png","edit_reason":null,"body_changes":{"inline":"\u003cdiv class=\"inline-diff\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis guide is intended for people who are not system administrators who just want to make Discourse work. This is a list of cloud hosting services that are believed to be reliable and easy enough for a novice to get up and running with as little fiddling as possible. You should be able to create an account, and a server on which to run your Discourse instance and still be able to pull the job off in very close to 30 minutes.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eI have installed Discourse on each of these, received an email from Discourse, and used it to log in as an admin. For all of these the standard \u003ca href=\"https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md\"\u003eInstall Cloud\u003c/a\u003e instructions work just fine.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eWhat about AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud?\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf you have spent many hours using bash, know what ports 80, 443, and 20 are, and are familiar with firewalls, partitions, and what an S3 bucket is, any of these will work just fine. If you have never found a solution to your problem using Stack Exchange, you should probably stay away from these providers. These are the finicky hot rods of the hosting world. This guide is to help you find something more like a Honda Civic than a Formula One racer.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eEasy and Reliable\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe table below provides a comparison of these easy-to-use providers. The “Build time” column is the result of\u003c/p\u003e\u003cpre\u003e\u003ccode\u003etime ./launcher rebuild app\n\u003c/code\u003e\u003c/pre\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt is not a meaningful benchmark, but a crude measure of how fast the CPU, Disk, and network are. Your mileage may vary. You can see, though, that the Digital Ocean “optimized” instance is nearly twice as fast as the standard 1GB one.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ctable\u003e\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003ctbody\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eProvider\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003ePrice\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDisk\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eCPU\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eGB RAM\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eBuild time\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eData Centers\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDigital Ocean\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$5\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e25GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e10m0.252s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDO Optimized\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$40\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e25GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e4\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e5m47.878s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eHetzner\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e3.11 Euros\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e20GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eNot tested\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e??\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eLightsail\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$10\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e30GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e8m17.215s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS (3), JP, SG, AU, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eLinode 1024\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$5\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e20GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e9m46.437s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS (3), UK, DE, SG, JP\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUpcloud\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$10\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e30GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e7m22.627s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDE, FI, NL, JP, UK, US\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e\u003cins\u003eVultr\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e$\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e5\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e24GB\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e1\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e1\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e8m0\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e.\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e930s\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003eUS \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e(\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e7\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e)\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eNL\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eFR\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eDE\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eUK\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eJP\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eSG\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eAU\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/tr class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctr class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003c/tbody\u003e\n\u003c/table\u003e\u003ch2\u003eProvider Notes\u003c/h2\u003e\u003cp\u003eThese are notes on individual providers. If you have good experiences with any of them, please feel free to add your comments here. If you have bad comments, please add them as a reply.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eAmazon AWS/Lightsail\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSuper easy! Click a button to open a window with a logged-in SSH connection.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eUses ubuntu@hostname rather than root@hostname. Not what most sites do, but it’s just like AWS, and somewhat more secure.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eDigital Ocean\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis is the simplest, easiest, and most-used provider, and since the recent price drop, it is again quite competitive. A problem for people not in the US is that they sometimes make it harder to get an account created and block outgoing SMTP ports (my standard install script works around this problem by using port 2525, which Mailgun and other providers support).\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eHetzner\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://www.hetzner.com/cloud\"\u003ehttps://www.hetzner.com/cloud\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://meta.discourse.org/t/hetzner-launches-a-vps-service/78759/6\"\u003ehttps://meta.discourse.org/t/hetzner-launches-a-vps-service/78759/6\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNot tested. But at 3.90 Euros/month, for 1GB RAM and 25GB SSD, it\u003cbr\u003e\nlooks good.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eComments?\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eLinode\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.linode.com/pricing\"\u003ehttps://www.linode.com/pricing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/35?u=pfaffman\"\u003ehttps://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/35?u=pfaffman\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNote: Remove the too-small swap space that is automatically created. discourse-setup will create a 2gb swap file for you.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eUpcloud\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.upcloud.com/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://www.upcloud.com/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNo problems or frustrations in creating an account and cranking up a server.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3 class=\"diff-ins\"\u003eVultr\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.vultr.com/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://www.vultr.com/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp class=\"diff-ins\"\u003eAccept PayPal, Bitcoin, Alipay\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp class=\"diff-ins\"\u003eI had no problems or frustrations creating an account and doing an install.\u003c/p\u003e\u003caside class=\"diff-ins quote\" data-post=\"36\" data-topic=\"8852\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"title\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"quote-controls\"\u003e\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003cimg alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https://d11a6trkgmumsb.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cpradio/40/4970_1.png\" class=\"avatar\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/36\"\u003eSuggestion for good VPS to host Discourse ? Digital ocean or Linode?\u003c/a\u003e\n\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eI’ve been using Vultr for nearly a year, granted it is only a sandbox running Discourse, thus no traffic, no real users, but it gets the job done and hasn’t had any issues what-so-ever (apart from running low on disk space from time to time).\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003c/blockquote\u003e\n\u003c/aside\u003e\u003ch2\u003eWhat about XXX?\u003c/h2\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf you use a provider that is easy to set up and works reliably, please feel free to leave a comment with your recommendation. At some point I’ll probably make this a wiki, but I’m going to see what kind of comments and recommendations people have first.\u003c/p\u003e\u003c/div\u003e","side_by_side":"\u003cdiv class=\"revision-content --previous\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis guide is intended for people who are not system administrators who just want to make Discourse work. This is a list of cloud hosting services that are believed to be reliable and easy enough for a novice to get up and running with as little fiddling as possible. You should be able to create an account, and a server on which to run your Discourse instance and still be able to pull the job off in very close to 30 minutes.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eI have installed Discourse on each of these, received an email from Discourse, and used it to log in as an admin. For all of these the standard \u003ca href=\"https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md\"\u003eInstall Cloud\u003c/a\u003e instructions work just fine.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eWhat about AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud?\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf you have spent many hours using bash, know what ports 80, 443, and 20 are, and are familiar with firewalls, partitions, and what an S3 bucket is, any of these will work just fine. If you have never found a solution to your problem using Stack Exchange, you should probably stay away from these providers. These are the finicky hot rods of the hosting world. This guide is to help you find something more like a Honda Civic than a Formula One racer.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eEasy and Reliable\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe table below provides a comparison of these easy-to-use providers. The “Build time” column is the result of\u003c/p\u003e\u003cpre\u003e\u003ccode\u003etime ./launcher rebuild app\n\u003c/code\u003e\u003c/pre\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt is not a meaningful benchmark, but a crude measure of how fast the CPU, Disk, and network are. Your mileage may vary. You can see, though, that the Digital Ocean “optimized” instance is nearly twice as fast as the standard 1GB one.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ctable\u003e\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003ctbody\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eProvider\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003ePrice\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDisk\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eCPU\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eGB RAM\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eBuild time\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eData Centers\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDigital Ocean\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$5\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e25GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e10m0.252s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDO Optimized\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$40\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e25GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e4\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e5m47.878s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eHetzner\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e3.11 Euros\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e20GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eNot tested\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e??\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eLightsail\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$10\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e30GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e8m17.215s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS (3), JP, SG, AU, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eLinode 1024\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$5\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e20GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e9m46.437s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS (3), UK, DE, SG, JP\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUpcloud\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$10\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e30GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e7m22.627s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDE, FI, NL, JP, UK, US\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003c/tbody\u003e\n\u003c/table\u003e\u003ch2\u003eProvider Notes\u003c/h2\u003e\u003cp\u003eThese are notes on individual providers. If you have good experiences with any of them, please feel free to add your comments here. If you have bad comments, please add them as a reply.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eAmazon AWS/Lightsail\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSuper easy! Click a button to open a window with a logged-in SSH connection.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eUses ubuntu@hostname rather than root@hostname. Not what most sites do, but it’s just like AWS, and somewhat more secure.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eDigital Ocean\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis is the simplest, easiest, and most-used provider, and since the recent price drop, it is again quite competitive. A problem for people not in the US is that they sometimes make it harder to get an account created and block outgoing SMTP ports (my standard install script works around this problem by using port 2525, which Mailgun and other providers support).\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eHetzner\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://www.hetzner.com/cloud\"\u003ehttps://www.hetzner.com/cloud\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://meta.discourse.org/t/hetzner-launches-a-vps-service/78759/6\"\u003ehttps://meta.discourse.org/t/hetzner-launches-a-vps-service/78759/6\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNot tested. But at 3.90 Euros/month, for 1GB RAM and 25GB SSD, it\u003cbr\u003e\nlooks good.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eComments?\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eLinode\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.linode.com/pricing\"\u003ehttps://www.linode.com/pricing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/35?u=pfaffman\"\u003ehttps://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/35?u=pfaffman\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNote: Remove the too-small swap space that is automatically created. discourse-setup will create a 2gb swap file for you.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eUpcloud\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.upcloud.com/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://www.upcloud.com/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNo problems or frustrations in creating an account and cranking up a server.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch2\u003eWhat about XXX?\u003c/h2\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf you use a provider that is easy to set up and works reliably, please feel free to leave a comment with your recommendation. At some point I’ll probably make this a wiki, but I’m going to see what kind of comments and recommendations people have first.\u003c/p\u003e\u003c/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"revision-content --current\"\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis guide is intended for people who are not system administrators who just want to make Discourse work. This is a list of cloud hosting services that are believed to be reliable and easy enough for a novice to get up and running with as little fiddling as possible. You should be able to create an account, and a server on which to run your Discourse instance and still be able to pull the job off in very close to 30 minutes.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eI have installed Discourse on each of these, received an email from Discourse, and used it to log in as an admin. For all of these the standard \u003ca href=\"https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md\"\u003eInstall Cloud\u003c/a\u003e instructions work just fine.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eWhat about AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud?\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf you have spent many hours using bash, know what ports 80, 443, and 20 are, and are familiar with firewalls, partitions, and what an S3 bucket is, any of these will work just fine. If you have never found a solution to your problem using Stack Exchange, you should probably stay away from these providers. These are the finicky hot rods of the hosting world. This guide is to help you find something more like a Honda Civic than a Formula One racer.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eEasy and Reliable\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe table below provides a comparison of these easy-to-use providers. The “Build time” column is the result of\u003c/p\u003e\u003cpre\u003e\u003ccode\u003etime ./launcher rebuild app\n\u003c/code\u003e\u003c/pre\u003e\u003cp\u003eIt is not a meaningful benchmark, but a crude measure of how fast the CPU, Disk, and network are. Your mileage may vary. You can see, though, that the Digital Ocean “optimized” instance is nearly twice as fast as the standard 1GB one.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ctable\u003e\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\u003ctbody\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eProvider\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003ePrice\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDisk\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eCPU\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eGB RAM\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eBuild time\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eData Centers\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDigital Ocean\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$5\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e25GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e10m0.252s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDO Optimized\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$40\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e25GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e4\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e5m47.878s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eHetzner\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e3.11 Euros\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e20GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eNot tested\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e??\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eLightsail\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$10\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e30GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e8m17.215s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS (3), JP, SG, AU, IN\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eLinode 1024\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$5\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e20GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e9m46.437s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUS (3), UK, DE, SG, JP\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eUpcloud\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e$10\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e30GB\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e1\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e2\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e7m22.627s\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003eDE, FI, NL, JP, UK, US\u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003ctr\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e\u003cins\u003eVultr\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e$\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e5\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e24GB\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e1\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e1\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e8m0\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e.\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e930s\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003eUS \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e(\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e7\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e)\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eNL\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eFR\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eDE\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eUK\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eJP\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eSG\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e,\u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003e \u003c/ins\u003e\u003cins\u003eAU\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/td class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003c/tr class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctr class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003cins\u003e\n\u003c/ins\u003e\u003ctd class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003ctd\u003e \u003c/td\u003e\n\u003c/tr\u003e\n\u003c/tbody\u003e\n\u003c/table\u003e\u003ch2\u003eProvider Notes\u003c/h2\u003e\u003cp\u003eThese are notes on individual providers. If you have good experiences with any of them, please feel free to add your comments here. If you have bad comments, please add them as a reply.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eAmazon AWS/Lightsail\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eSuper easy! Click a button to open a window with a logged-in SSH connection.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eUses ubuntu@hostname rather than root@hostname. Not what most sites do, but it’s just like AWS, and somewhat more secure.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eDigital Ocean\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThis is the simplest, easiest, and most-used provider, and since the recent price drop, it is again quite competitive. A problem for people not in the US is that they sometimes make it harder to get an account created and block outgoing SMTP ports (my standard install script works around this problem by using port 2525, which Mailgun and other providers support).\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eHetzner\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003ePricing: \u003ca href=\"https://www.hetzner.com/cloud\"\u003ehttps://www.hetzner.com/cloud\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://meta.discourse.org/t/hetzner-launches-a-vps-service/78759/6\"\u003ehttps://meta.discourse.org/t/hetzner-launches-a-vps-service/78759/6\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNot tested. But at 3.90 Euros/month, for 1GB RAM and 25GB SSD, it\u003cbr\u003e\nlooks good.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eComments?\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eLinode\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.linode.com/pricing\"\u003ehttps://www.linode.com/pricing\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/35?u=pfaffman\"\u003ehttps://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/35?u=pfaffman\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNote: Remove the too-small swap space that is automatically created. discourse-setup will create a 2gb swap file for you.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3\u003eUpcloud\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.upcloud.com/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://www.upcloud.com/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eNo problems or frustrations in creating an account and cranking up a server.\u003c/p\u003e\u003ch3 class=\"diff-ins\"\u003eVultr\u003c/h3\u003e\u003cp class=\"diff-ins\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.vultr.com/pricing/\"\u003ehttps://www.vultr.com/pricing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp class=\"diff-ins\"\u003eAccept PayPal, Bitcoin, Alipay\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp class=\"diff-ins\"\u003eI had no problems or frustrations creating an account and doing an install.\u003c/p\u003e\u003caside class=\"diff-ins quote\" data-post=\"36\" data-topic=\"8852\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"title\"\u003e\n\u003cdiv class=\"quote-controls\"\u003e\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003cimg alt=\"\" width=\"20\" height=\"20\" src=\"https://d11a6trkgmumsb.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cpradio/40/4970_1.png\" class=\"avatar\"\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/36\"\u003eSuggestion for good VPS to host Discourse ? Digital ocean or Linode?\u003c/a\u003e\n\u003c/div\u003e\n\u003cblockquote\u003e\n\u003cp\u003eI’ve been using Vultr for nearly a year, granted it is only a sandbox running Discourse, thus no traffic, no real users, but it gets the job done and hasn’t had any issues what-so-ever (apart from running low on disk space from time to time).\u003c/p\u003e\n\u003c/blockquote\u003e\n\u003c/aside\u003e\u003ch2\u003eWhat about XXX?\u003c/h2\u003e\u003cp\u003eIf you use a provider that is easy to set up and works reliably, please feel free to leave a comment with your recommendation. At some point I’ll probably make this a wiki, but I’m going to see what kind of comments and recommendations people have first.\u003c/p\u003e\u003c/div\u003e","side_by_side_markdown":"\u003ctable class=\"markdown\"\u003e\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--previous\"\u003eThis guide is intended for people who are not system administrators who just want to make Discourse work. This is a list of cloud hosting services that are believed to be reliable and easy enough for a novice to get up and running with as little fiddling as possible. You should be able to create an account, and a server on which to run your Discourse instance and still be able to pull the job off in very close to 30 minutes.\n\nI have installed Discourse on each of these, received an email from Discourse, and used it to log in as an admin. For all of these the standard [Install Cloud](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md) instructions work just fine. \n\n### What about AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud?\n\nIf you have spent many hours using bash, know what ports 80, 443, and 20 are, and are familiar with firewalls, partitions, and what an S3 bucket is, any of these will work just fine. If you have never found a solution to your problem using Stack Exchange, you should probably stay away from these providers. These are the finicky hot rods of the hosting world. This guide is to help you find something more like a Honda Civic than a Formula One racer.\n\n### Easy and Reliable\n\nThe table below provides a comparison of these easy-to-use providers. The \u0026quot;Build time\u0026quot; column is the result of\n\n    time ./launcher rebuild app\n\nIt is not a meaningful benchmark, but a crude measure of how fast the CPU, Disk, and network are. Your mileage may vary. You can see, though, that the Digital Ocean \u0026quot;optimized\u0026quot; instance is nearly twice as fast as the standard 1GB one.\n\n\u0026lt;table border=\u0026quot;2\u0026quot; cellspacing=\u0026quot;0\u0026quot; cellpadding=\u0026quot;6\u0026quot; rules=\u0026quot;groups\u0026quot; frame=\u0026quot;hsides\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;colgroup\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/colgroup\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;tbody\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Provider\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Price\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Disk\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;CPU\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;GB RAM\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Build time\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Data Centers\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Digital Ocean\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$5\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;25GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;10m0.252s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;DO Optimized\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$40\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;25GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;2\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;4\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;5m47.878s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Hetzner\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;3.11 Euros\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;20GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;2\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Not tested\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;??\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Lightsail\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$10\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;30GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;2\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;8m17.215s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US (3), JP, SG, AU, IN\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Linode 1024\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$5\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;20GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;9m46.437s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US (3), UK, DE, SG, JP\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Upcloud\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$10\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;30GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;2\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;7m22.627s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;DE, FI, NL, JP, UK, US\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u003c/td\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--current\"\u003eThis guide is intended for people who are not system administrators who just want to make Discourse work. This is a list of cloud hosting services that are believed to be reliable and easy enough for a novice to get up and running with as little fiddling as possible. You should be able to create an account, and a server on which to run your Discourse instance and still be able to pull the job off in very close to 30 minutes.\n\nI have installed Discourse on each of these, received an email from Discourse, and used it to log in as an admin. For all of these the standard [Install Cloud](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md) instructions work just fine. \n\n### What about AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud?\n\nIf you have spent many hours using bash, know what ports 80, 443, and 20 are, and are familiar with firewalls, partitions, and what an S3 bucket is, any of these will work just fine. If you have never found a solution to your problem using Stack Exchange, you should probably stay away from these providers. These are the finicky hot rods of the hosting world. This guide is to help you find something more like a Honda Civic than a Formula One racer.\n\n### Easy and Reliable\n\nThe table below provides a comparison of these easy-to-use providers. The \u0026quot;Build time\u0026quot; column is the result of\n\n    time ./launcher rebuild app\n\nIt is not a meaningful benchmark, but a crude measure of how fast the CPU, Disk, and network are. Your mileage may vary. You can see, though, that the Digital Ocean \u0026quot;optimized\u0026quot; instance is nearly twice as fast as the standard 1GB one.\n\n\u0026lt;table border=\u0026quot;2\u0026quot; cellspacing=\u0026quot;0\u0026quot; cellpadding=\u0026quot;6\u0026quot; rules=\u0026quot;groups\u0026quot; frame=\u0026quot;hsides\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;colgroup\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;col  class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot; /\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/colgroup\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;tbody\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Provider\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Price\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Disk\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;CPU\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;GB RAM\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Build time\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Data Centers\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Digital Ocean\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$5\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;25GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;10m0.252s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;DO Optimized\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$40\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;25GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;2\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;4\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;5m47.878s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US(2), NL, SG, UK, DE, CA, IN\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Hetzner\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;3.11 Euros\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;20GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;2\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Not tested\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;??\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Lightsail\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$10\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;30GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;2\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;8m17.215s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US (3), JP, SG, AU, IN\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Linode 1024\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$5\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;20GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;9m46.437s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US (3), UK, DE, SG, JP\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Upcloud\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$10\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;30GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;2\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;7m22.627s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;DE, FI, NL, JP, UK, US\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u003c/td\u003e\u003c/tr\u003e\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--previous\"\u003e\u003c/td\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--current diff-ins\"\u003e\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;Vultr\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;$5\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;24GB\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;1\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;8m0.930s\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;US (7), NL, FR, DE, UK, JP, SG, AU\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;tr\u0026gt;\n\u003c/td\u003e\u003c/tr\u003e\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--previous\"\u003e\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tbody\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/table\u0026gt;\n\n## Provider Notes\n\nThese are notes on individual providers. If you have good experiences with any of them, please feel free to add your comments here. If you have bad comments, please add them as a reply.\n\n### Amazon AWS/Lightsail\n\nPricing: \u0026lt;https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/\u0026gt;\n\nSuper easy! Click a button to open a window with a logged-in SSH connection.\n\nUses ubuntu@hostname rather than root@hostname. Not what most sites do, but it\u0026#39;s just like AWS, and somewhat more secure.\n\n### Digital Ocean\n\nPricing: \u0026lt;https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/\u0026gt;\n\nThis is the simplest, easiest, and most-used provider, and since the recent price drop, it is again quite competitive. A problem for people not in the US is that they sometimes make it harder to get an account created and block outgoing SMTP ports (my standard install script works around this problem by using port 2525, which Mailgun and other providers support).\n\n\n### Hetzner\n\nPricing: \u0026lt;https://www.hetzner.com/cloud\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;https://meta.discourse.org/t/hetzner-launches-a-vps-service/78759/6\u0026gt;\n\nNot tested. But at 3.90 Euros/month, for 1GB RAM and 25GB SSD, it\nlooks good.\n\nComments?\n\n\n### Linode\n\n\u0026lt;https://www.linode.com/pricing\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;https://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/35?u=pfaffman\u0026gt;\n\nNote: Remove the too-small swap space that is automatically created. discourse-setup will create a 2gb swap file for you.\n\n\n### Upcloud\n\n\u0026lt;https://www.upcloud.com/pricing/\u0026gt;\n\nNo problems or frustrations in creating an account and cranking up a server.\n\n\u003c/td\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--current\"\u003e\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-right\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;td class=\u0026quot;org-left\u0026quot;\u0026gt;\u0026amp;#xa0;\u0026lt;/td\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tr\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/tbody\u0026gt;\n\u0026lt;/table\u0026gt;\n\n## Provider Notes\n\nThese are notes on individual providers. If you have good experiences with any of them, please feel free to add your comments here. If you have bad comments, please add them as a reply.\n\n### Amazon AWS/Lightsail\n\nPricing: \u0026lt;https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/pricing/\u0026gt;\n\nSuper easy! Click a button to open a window with a logged-in SSH connection.\n\nUses ubuntu@hostname rather than root@hostname. Not what most sites do, but it\u0026#39;s just like AWS, and somewhat more secure.\n\n### Digital Ocean\n\nPricing: \u0026lt;https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/\u0026gt;\n\nThis is the simplest, easiest, and most-used provider, and since the recent price drop, it is again quite competitive. A problem for people not in the US is that they sometimes make it harder to get an account created and block outgoing SMTP ports (my standard install script works around this problem by using port 2525, which Mailgun and other providers support).\n\n\n### Hetzner\n\nPricing: \u0026lt;https://www.hetzner.com/cloud\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;https://meta.discourse.org/t/hetzner-launches-a-vps-service/78759/6\u0026gt;\n\nNot tested. But at 3.90 Euros/month, for 1GB RAM and 25GB SSD, it\nlooks good.\n\nComments?\n\n\n### Linode\n\n\u0026lt;https://www.linode.com/pricing\u0026gt;\n\n\u0026lt;https://meta.discourse.org/t/suggestion-for-good-vps-to-host-discourse-digital-ocean-or-linode/8852/35?u=pfaffman\u0026gt;\n\nNote: Remove the too-small swap space that is automatically created. discourse-setup will create a 2gb swap file for you.\n\n\n### Upcloud\n\n\u0026lt;https://www.upcloud.com/pricing/\u0026gt;\n\nNo problems or frustrations in creating an account and cranking up a server.\n\n\u003c/td\u003e\u003c/tr\u003e\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--previous\"\u003e\u003c/td\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--current diff-ins\"\u003e### Vultr\n\n\u0026lt;https://www.vultr.com/pricing/\u0026gt;\n\nAccept PayPal, Bitcoin, Alipay\n\nI had no problems or frustrations creating an account and doing an install.\n\n[quote=\u0026quot;cpradio, post:36, topic:8852\u0026quot;]\nI’ve been using Vultr for nearly a year, granted it is only a sandbox running Discourse, thus no traffic, no real users, but it gets the job done and hasn’t had any issues what-so-ever (apart from running low on disk space from time to time).\n[/quote]\n\n\n\n\u003c/td\u003e\u003c/tr\u003e\u003ctr\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--previous\"\u003e## What about XXX?\n\nIf you use a provider that is easy to set up and works reliably, please feel free to leave a comment with your recommendation. At some point I\u0026#39;ll probably make this a wiki, but I\u0026#39;m going to see what kind of comments and recommendations people have first.\u003c/td\u003e\u003ctd class=\"--current\"\u003e## What about XXX?\n\nIf you use a provider that is easy to set up and works reliably, please feel free to leave a comment with your recommendation. At some point I\u0026#39;ll probably make this a wiki, but I\u0026#39;m going to see what kind of comments and recommendations people have first.\u003c/td\u003e\u003c/tr\u003e\u003c/table\u003e"},"title_changes":{"inline":"\u003cdiv class=\"inline-diff\"\u003e\u003cdiv\u003eRecommended Hosting Providers for Novices\u003c/div\u003e\u003c/div\u003e","side_by_side":"\u003cdiv class=\"revision-content --previous\"\u003e\u003cdiv\u003eRecommended Hosting Providers for Novices\u003c/div\u003e\u003c/div\u003e\u003cdiv class=\"revision-content --current\"\u003e\u003cdiv\u003eRecommended Hosting Providers for Novices\u003c/div\u003e\u003c/div\u003e"},"can_edit":false}