Hi, Just noticed three new bot accounts have been created recently (October 19th, three days ago, just noticed them today) on forum in staff-only mode hosted at San Jose servers, are these part of a system update or something? Is kind of alarming to see these new bots not sure if they are authorized to be there and what is their purpose? [bots]

We’ve recently made the AI bot module from our AI plugin available to all plans on our hosting. :partying_face: These three users are the friendly little chaps who would be dishing out the AI advice once you enabled it and added in the relevant api keys (Discourse AI - AI bot). However, as Moin points out, we’re now thinking it would be better to defer creating them until the AI Bot module is actually enabled and configured by site admins. :+1: That’s still a work in progress change, but hopefully we’ll have that sorted soon. :crossed_fingers: Sorry for the scare. :pray:

It looks like a fix is already in progress in the official Discourse plugin. https://github.com/discourse/discourse-ai/pull/258

That is a confusing page I don’t understand what all they are talking about. Don’t know if this is necessarily any kind of a problem that these bot accounts appeared, just didn’t know if that was supposed to happen and what they are for.

Ah ha, that explains that! I tried talking to Claude but there was no response since I guess in staff mode they aren’t supported. That is a good name, “Claude.”

You would need to set up the relevant api keys to make them interactive. :+1: You can find out more details on how to do that for each using the links in the ‘Prerequisites’ section of the guide I linked above - https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-how-to-enable-ai-bot-in-discourse/266012#prerequisites-6

It looks like they can be deleted just like human users.

All I see is a message saying " Admins and moderators can’t be deleted." and there is no button to remove their admin privileges.

Huh, for me they don’t show up as administrators.

I can’t even change their trust level. Any attempt to lower it is immediately reverted Edit: seems I had locked the trust level before lowering it so it was reverting to what it was when locked. My mistake. Still can’t de-admin them though

Here is a different way to think of them. They are place holders for the AI bots, which until they are set up by an admin with an API key in the Discourse settings are essentially just names of accounts with no ability to do anything, not even respond to a message. Here is a test message to see if the AI bot responds when not set up with an API key. [image] However, if the bots are activated then be very careful with who you allow to converse with the bots because if their use violates the policy of the AI company such as OpenAI the account for the API key will be disabled and most likely never be allowed to be reactivated. As a Discourse admin on another site I too noticed the update and did check out the bots without the API key set. I currently consider them harmless when not activated and unless you have a savvy user, most users will never know about them at present or even how to make use of them. On this Discourse site I do have access to the bots, so here is a demonstration of the same test. [image] When a message to a bot is created on this site the follow notification is posted at the bottom of the text input area. [image] Same test done on the OpenAI forum. (I am a category moderator there) [image] [image] Here is the official Discourse post [image] Discourse AI - AI bot Site Management bookmark This guide explains how to enable and configure the AI bot feature of the Discourse AI plugin. person_raising_hand Required user level: Administrator The smart chatbot can answer all questions about your Discourse community and more. The AI Bot has the power to search through your current Discourse instance and beyond with agent support to answer any type of questions you might have. Features Ability to pick the specific AI Bot agent you want to interact with Flexibili… For those without access to see the admin settings here are the default values taken from a current Discourse site https:// /admin/site_settings/category/discourse_ai [image] [image] [image] [image] Notice that no API key is set. Also never publish an API key, keep them safe at all times. If by accident you do publish one, sites such as OpenAI have a page to revoke a current API key and immediately reissue you a new one.

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Simon_Edge (Simon Edge) October 23, 2023, 12:43pm 7

How can we remove the accounts, or at least remove their admin privileges? We don’t want any AI interfering with our community

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