Time to test a new hosting company :slight_smile: .This time I opted for German Hetzner, and their 4.80€ VPS CX1. Note that this price is VAT inclusive, so it is one of the very cheapest on the market (many providers present VAT 0% prices) for a consumer. It’s a solid package: 1GB RAM 1 Core CPU 25GB SSD 1 snapshot included in the price (paid extra option at OVH and many others) DDoS protection and the usual goodies I was going to benchmark this and move one instance there right away, but the always flexible Germans do not open new accounts during weekends. They validate the massive 4.80€ transaction manually, before issuing the virtual server. And yes, this is 2016. Also their support seems to be available only during extended office hours. For the record servers never break during office hours. I’ll get back to this topic some time later when they have finally booted my server…Not sure when I have the time to do it, as I would have had some today, but it’s Saturday. It would be nice to read any comments while waiting.

Have a look at this: Hetzner Online Status Hetzner Online Status – Hier finden Sie allgemeine Statusmeldungen zu Produkten und Services von Hetzner Online.

Ah sorry, that’s what I was trying to point out.

Recently I discussed here an issue that my site is not reachable via http. After some investigation, this was not a Hetzner issue. Domain auto-renewal had failed and it was suspended. I deleted those posts as they had disinformation regarding the root cause. Still a valuable experiment to see if Hetzner handles support tickets outside office hours, and they do not. Also, I dont seem to be update or close my own support ticket, which is odd. The server and connection works though.

Hetzner’s CX servers include at least one Snapshopt for free, which is great, and it just takes a few seconds to create one. But they issue this warning: Power off your vServer before taking a snapshot to ensure data consistency. If you take a snapshot of a running vServer, data in the memory cannot be saved. To restore a snapshot, the vServer must be switched off. Can someone translate what this means for discourse (and, Wordpress, for that matter)? I understand that if I take a Snapshot only includes whatever is saved to the disk, but does it matter that I don’t get what was in RAM (and swap?)? Or when does it matter? BTW: have you seen the revamped Hetzner-website? Was about time :wink: Now, I hope, the next redesign will be the beautiful backend… I’ll post a screenshot here, so we can compare before and after [image]

[图片] tophee: Can someone translate what this means for discourse (and, Wordpress, for that matter)? You’re probably right about not needing the RAM/swap data. All the data you need for a restore should be on the filesystem, with the exception of any caching going on with the database. The problem with taking a snapshot of a “live” system is that the data can change while the backup is happening. For example, if the backup gets halfway through the database, and then something changes, the backup will carry on regardless. But when you go to restore, the database file will probably be corrupt. I think other cloud providers will have exactly the same warning - Digital Ocean certainly does. The way Discourse deals with this problem for its own backups is to put the database in read-only mode, and then use the database’s built-in backup methods. The only real way to put an entire operating system in “read only mode” is to shut it down, hence their recommendation.

[图片] david: The way Discourse deals with this problem for its own backups is to put the database in read-only mode, and then use the databases built-in backup methods. Okay, so if I take backup in discourse and then a snapshot, I should be fine? By “fine” I mean, I if I then fiddle with some server settings and the thing becomes unresponsive, I can restore it from the snapshot and then restore discourse from the backup and everything will be as it was. (For wordpress, I assume the same applies: do an internal backup in addition to the snapshot)

[图片] tophee: Okay, so if I take backup in discourse and then a snapshot, I should be fine? I’m gonna go with “probably”, but possibly not :wink: The safest thing would be to have a completely external system storing your backups as well - like S3/Dropbox/Google-Drive etc. - that way you’re not entirely reliant on a single company and their computer systems.

[图片] david: The safest thing would be to have a completely external system storing your backups as well - like S3/Dropbox/Google-Drive Yes, I have my backups on dropbox. Sorry, should have mentioned.

Then I’d say you’re pretty safe - in a worst case scenario where the hosting provider loses your server and its snapshot, you’ve still got your data safe :slight_smile:

does hetzner ask for ID (like ovh and other sites)?

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rmens 2022 年3 月 6 日 22:09 29

Hetzner 很棒！你可能最好使用他们的块存储卷。它们比 Storage Box 贵，但非常稳定。

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