I read these posts about Bootstrap mode. It makes sense but I’m not clear on something. [image] What is Bootstrap Mode Support I am the admin of a new forum which has been technically setup for me. I have a fair knowledge of the possibilities and settings in Discourse after reading through the forum and I have to say, I’m very excited about it! As an admin I get the message about Bootstrap Mode every time I visit. Which is OK. I know it’s an admin-only message. What I don’t get is what Bootstrap Mode exactly is. What does it do and why? Why is it a part of Discourse and what are the positive effects of it? I can’t real… [image] How to re-enable bootstrap mode? Support I failed to increase bootstrap mode min users before I reached the default of 50 users. I increased it to 100 and expected that that would automatically re-enable bootstrap mode until the new number of users is reached, but apparently this is not the case as new users are all TL0. How can I re-enable bootstrap mode? What I’m not clear on is: We are self-hosted I have upped Bootstrap mode from the normal 50 In our config, the default user trust level is set to 0 Our test users are signing up but I see their trust level is at 0 instead of 1 Note: I do not see the admin message that Bootstrap mode is on Do I need to run the console command line to turn on boostrap mode since I don’t see the admin message at the top? So do I set the default trust level to 1 and then after we pass our threshold it will auto change to 0? Or do I leave it at 0 but the system auto sets the users to trust level 1? Thanks in advance

Got it, thanks. And understand.

As far as I can tell you already have 90 users so the trigger of 50 is not going to work. If you want to bump it up to say 200 we could but we would have to run something locally on your instance. I recommend you simply avoid using bootstrap mode for now and simple use “default trust level”, set it to 1, when you feel your community is bootsrapped enough set it back to 0.

[image] sam: I recommend you simply avoid using bootstrap mode for now and simple use “default trust level”, set it to 1, when you feel your community is bootsrapped enough set it back to 0. And if you want to mimic bootstrap mode even better you can set default email digest frequency to daily.

[image] sam: As far as I can tell you already have 90 users so the trigger of 50 is not going to work. This is a fresh install for our new website. We have an extremely large audience so I’ve bumped it to 2000 for bootstrap mode. So with that knowledge, and on a fresh install, I’m not seeing the “you’re in bootstrap mode” message which indicates to me that it’s not on? And our test users are still at trust level 0 after they signed up. So yeah, I could certainly leave default setting to 1 for now… I guess I’m just confused on is boostrap mode enabled how it truly functions

No, the threshhold is a trigger, once passed you exit bootstrap mode. Raising the number won’t do anything at this point because the trigger has already fired.

[image] Brock_Busby: is boostrap mode enabled No it is not enabled till I log in to your server and kick it on. [image] Brock_Busby: how it truly functions It sets trust level to 1 by default and digest frequency to daily by default. Once the “bootstrap” number is hit it disables itself and sets tl to 0 by default and digest frequency back to weekly. All it does is saves you from “visiting” the site and changing the 2 site settings. I strongly recommend you just ignore the setting for now and amend the site settings to suit your needs.

I STRONGLY advise against setting your default trust level to 1, as it makes you extremely vulnerable to spammers. The only case in which you should do this is if every new user is individually vetted as a paying (subscribing) customer.

[image] codinghorror: I STRONGLY advise against setting your default trust level to 1, as it makes you extremely vulnerable to spammers. Is this because of how Discourse is built and the initial settings, or more around the philosophy of an open community? Just trying to understand and make the right decision.

[image] Brock_Busby: Is this because of how Discourse is built and the initial settings, or more around the philosophy of an open community? It has everything to do with keeping spammers at bay. TL0 users are heavily rate limited, they can’t upload, they have a limited number of images/links, etc. Additionally, there are other anti-spam protections that only affect TL0 users.

Sorry to bump this, but I have a question. :raising_hand_man: After bootstrap is gone, and default digest resets to weekly, do all those users that joined PRIOR get their digest frequency set back to weekly? Or do they get stuck at daily? It seems that those 50 or so users all have their digest frequency stuck at daily forever – and must be manually fixed. Is there a Rails command to automatically set all users’ digest frequencies (or at least the first 50) back to weekly?

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Brock_Busby (Brock) June 7, 2017, 6:33pm 7

Got it, thanks. We will do it manually then.

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