# Conselho sobre um bot de suporte para um fórum de suporte técnico (Discourse AI vs Discourse Chatbot)

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349
**Category:** General
**Tags:** ai, ai-bot
**Created:** [Novembro 22, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349 "2023-11-22T17:18:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 18
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### Author: ![Falco](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/falco/32/179432_2.png) [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [Novembro 28, 2023, 5:47pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/43 "2023-11-28T17:47:43Z")

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> [@37Rb](#):
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> O plugin Discourse AI não parece fazer isso (não mostrou nenhuma atividade de embeddings no painel da OpenAI), mas ainda encontra posts em nosso fórum. Se ele não gera embeddings para pesquisar semanticamente, como o plugin Discourse AI pesquisa o fórum? Ele usa pesquisa de texto regular? Ele calcula seus próprios embeddings?

Nosso AIBot usará pesquisa híbrida, combinando pesquisa por palavra-chave e semântica. Se você não habilitou os embeddings corretamente, ele usará apenas a pesquisa por palavra-chave. Para habilitar os embeddings, siga [Habilitar Tópicos Relacionados](https://meta.discourse.org/t/enable-related-topics/281807). Depois disso, ele preencherá lentamente em segundo plano usando o modelo/provedor escolhido.

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Dezembro 13, 2023, 11:28am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/44 "2023-12-13T11:28:55Z")

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Alguma notícia/atualização sobre como está funcionando?

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### Author: ![37Rb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/37rb/32/224158_2.png) [@37Rb](https://meta.discourse.org/u/37Rb)
#### Post date: [Dezembro 13, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/45 "2023-12-13T18:00:43Z")

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Decidimos usar o [Discourse Chatbot](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-chatbot-now-smarter-than-chatgpt/256652) porque ele tem alguns recursos de que precisamos e o Robert está nos ajudando a criar alguns recursos adicionais para nos levar até lá. Postarei um link quando estiver funcionando caso você queira experimentar, mas provavelmente levará pelo menos um mês.

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Dezembro 13, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/46 "2023-12-13T18:08:41Z")

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> [@37Rb](#):
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> Postarei um link quando estiver funcionando caso você queira experimentar, mas provavelmente levará pelo menos um mês.

Ótimo saber disso para o seu fórum!

Obrigado pela atualização.

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Dezembro 14, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/47 "2023-12-14T18:38:18Z")

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Talvez o RLHF esteja com os dias contados.

[https://openai.com/research/weak-to-strong-generalization](https://openai.com/research/weak-to-strong-generalization)

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Dezembro 16, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/48 "2023-12-16T12:31:02Z")

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> [@EricGT](#):
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> Para melhorar a capacidade do bot de ajudar os usuários, ele deve realizar uma série de perguntas para coletar informações e entender melhor o problema, de forma semelhante a como um médico faria para um diagnóstico e prognóstico.

FYI

Não estou sugerindo que isso seja adicionado, mas é útil para ideias futuras.

“DiagGPT: An LLM-based Chatbot with Automatic Topic Management for Task-Oriented Dialogue” por Lang Cao ([pdf](https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.08043.pdf))

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/4/e/5/4e5999f9791317e6b6937eaa1fbb87cd8a6a1254.png)

Para aqueles que reconhecem a informação, ela também foi postada [aqui](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-data-explorer/274011/47?u=ericgt).

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Janeiro 17, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/49 "2024-01-17T21:27:54Z")

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“RAG vs Fine-tuning: pipelines, tradeoffs e um estudo de caso sobre agricultura” ([pdf](https://arxiv.org/pdf/2401.08406.pdf)) por Aman Gupta, Anup Shirgaonkar, Angels Balaguer, Bruno Silva, Daniel Holstein, Dawei Li, Jennifer Marsman, Leonardo Nunes, Mahsa Rouzbahman, Morris Sharp, Nick Mecklenburg, Rafael Padilha, Ranveer Chandra, Renato Cunha, Roberto Estevão, Ryan Tsang, Sara Malvar, Swati Sharma, Todd Hendry, Vijay Aski, Vijetha Vijayendran, Vinamra Benara

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### Author: ![37Rb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/37rb/32/224158_2.png) [@37Rb](https://meta.discourse.org/u/37Rb)
#### Post date: [Julho 17, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/50 "2024-07-17T20:18:49Z")

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Demorou mais do que o esperado, mas finalmente temos nosso chatbot de suporte no ar, embora em "modo de teste beta". Obrigado a todos que ofereceram conselhos ao longo do caminho! E agradecimentos especiais a @merefield por escrever o plugin Chatbot! Se você quiser experimentá-lo, veja como.

> **[Introducing Dexter the Surety Chatbot](https://support.suretyhome.com/t/introducing-dexter-the-surety-chatbot/30394)**
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> We’re excited to announce the launch of Dexter the Surety Chatbot. Dexter is an AI chatbot that is now available in beta testing mode on the Surety forum. Dexter is here to add to the Surety support experience you’re familiar with, not replace...

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Setembro 19, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/51 "2024-09-19T16:10:37Z")

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Tive um motivo para revisitar esta postagem.

Gostaria de compartilhar alguma atualização sobre o bot?

Obrigado.

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### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield)
#### Post date: [Setembro 19, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/52 "2024-09-19T16:12:20Z")

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@37Rb escreveu um ótimo guia aqui:

> [@Building a technical support chatbot](https://meta.discourse.org/t/building-a-technical-support-chatbot/319825):
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> Adding an AI chatbot to Discourse is easy (thanks to 2 great plugins). Adding a chatbot that performs technical support is a lot harder! This post shares our experience setting up a technical support chatbot for [support.suretyhome.com](https://support.suretyhome.com/) - what we wanted, problems we had, how we solved them, and where we’ll go from here. Our support team is only available during regular business hours but customers want help around the clock. We aren’t trying to replace the support team. Our goal is to augment the…

este está vinculado de [Chatbot](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-chatbot/256652) Tópico

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### Author: ![37Rb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/37rb/32/224158_2.png) [@37Rb](https://meta.discourse.org/u/37Rb)
#### Post date: [Setembro 19, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/53 "2024-09-19T22:28:46Z")

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Além do guia acima, uma das coisas mais aparentes é que o desempenho do bot depende do quanto o usuário sabe. Se eles fizerem boas perguntas, terão mais chances de obter boas respostas. Se eles usarem os termos errados ou descreverem as coisas mal em sua pergunta, o bot felizmente as entenderá mal e lhes dará uma resposta com confiança de qualquer maneira. Está funcionando melhor para usuários avançados do que para iniciantes. Com usuários menos experientes, nós, humanos, somos melhores em captar nuances em suas perguntas e entender o que eles realmente querem perguntar. Sinta-se à vontade para experimentar, adoraria seu feedback.

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Abril 24, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/56 "2026-04-24T18:29:24Z")

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Vi este exemplo recente de imagem gerada por IA e lembrei do seu bot de IA para ajuda técnica.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/b/b/b/bbbd090988a7223c6d744fc180113cbdbb7458e7.jpeg)

A imagem é do cookbook da OpenAI.

`https://github.com/openai/openai-cookbook/commit/bba26821fa2bce502503173d27c304278fa223d9`

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### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield)
#### Post date: [Abril 24, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/57 "2026-04-24T18:36:12Z")

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Uau, que imagem incrível. E só para avisar: o Image Gen 2 agora é uma opção em [Discourse Chatbot 🤖](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-chatbot-now-smarter-than-chatgpt/256652)

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Abril 24, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/58 "2026-04-24T19:47:14Z")

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Encontrei o verdadeiro OpenAI Cookbook

> **[GPT Image Generation Models Prompting Guide](https://developers.openai.com/cookbook/examples/multimodal/image-gen-models-prompting-guide)**
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> OpenAI's gpt-image generation models are designed for production-quality visuals and highly controllable creative workflows. They are well-s

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### Author: ![37Rb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/37rb/32/224158_2.png) [@37Rb](https://meta.discourse.org/u/37Rb)
#### Post date: [Abril 26, 2026, 3:05am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/59 "2026-04-26T03:05:53Z")

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Isso é interessante. Você está pensando que talvez haja uma maneira de usar isso para suporte técnico?

Experimentamos a funcionalidade de visão do Chatbot interpretando fotos de painéis de alarme de segurança e fornecendo orientações sobre fiação. Funcionou melhor do que eu esperava. Mas não acho que nossos clientes tenham usado isso na prática.

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Abril 26, 2026, 8:55am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/60 "2026-04-26T08:55:59Z")

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> [@37Rb](#):
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> Você está pensando que pode haver uma maneira de usar isso para suporte técnico?

Sim.

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Você também pode querer revisar este tópico da OpenAI, onde membros da comunidade estão compartilhando ativamente insights e descobertas.

> **[Collection of GPT-image-generator 2.0 issues, bugs, and work-around tips...](https://community.openai.com/t/collection-of-gpt-image-generator-2-0-issues-bugs-and-work-around-tips-check-first-post/1379535)**
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> Here is a collection of tips and tricks and some weaknesses and limits too, focused on the technical part of the GPT-image-generator. It takes quite some time to realize relatively simple things. This might help save some time when experimenting. ...

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### Author: ![37Rb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/37rb/32/224158_2.png) [@37Rb](https://meta.discourse.org/u/37Rb)
#### Post date: [Abril 28, 2026, 7:51pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/61 "2026-04-28T19:51:38Z")

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Eu usei para criar as imagens deste artigo.

> **[How Wi-Fi Motion Sensing Works: The Physics Behind the Technology](https://suretyhome.com/how-wi-fi-motion-sensing-works/)**
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> Wi-Fi sensing detects human motion by analyzing how radio waves change as they move through a room. Here is how the signal physics actually work, explained for homeowners.

Você tem razão. Isso é uma enorme melhoria em relação à última vez que tentei. Lembro-me de o texto derreter fora da imagem e de símbolos aleatórios estranhos aparecendo antes.

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### Author: ![EricGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f1d935/32.png) [@EricGT](https://meta.discourse.org/u/EricGT)
#### Post date: [Abril 29, 2026, 9:28am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/advice-on-a-support-bot-for-a-technical-support-forum-discourse-ai-vs-discourse-chatbot/286349/62 "2026-04-29T09:28:33Z")

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> [@37Rb](#):
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> Eu usei para criar as imagens deste artigo.

Essas imagens e infográficos são incríveis!

Tem interesse em compartilhar os prompts que você usou, junto com dicas e afins, neste tópico no fórum da OpenAI?

[https://community.openai.com/t/collection-of-gpt-image-generator-2-0-issues-bugs-and-work-around-tips-check-first-post/1379535](https://community.openai.com/t/collection-of-gpt-image-generator-2-0-issues-bugs-and-work-around-tips-check-first-post/1379535)

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