# After enabling TLS does port 465 need to be exposed?

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/after-enabling-tls-does-port-465-need-to-be-exposed/283813>\
**Category:** Self-hosting\
**Tags:** mail-receiver\
**Created:** [April 14, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/after-enabling-tls-does-port-465-need-to-be-exposed/283813 "2023-04-14T18:43:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![dfriestedt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a698b9/32.png) [@dfriestedt](https://meta.discourse.org/u/dfriestedt)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/after-enabling-tls-does-port-465-need-to-be-exposed/283813/1 "2023-04-14T18:43:14Z")

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After we enable TLS do we need to also expose port 465 too? Looks like 25 is only exposed by default.

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**Author:** ![sebix1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@sebix1](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sebix1)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 10:43am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/after-enabling-tls-does-port-465-need-to-be-exposed/283813/2 "2023-04-27T10:43:55Z")

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Mails are usually only received via Port 25, if transport-encrypted, then with STARTTLS. SMTPS (465) is deprecated.