# Allow TL4 to toggle unlisted before publishing
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686
**Category:** Feature
**Tags:** unlisting
**Created:** [April 13, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686 "2024-04-13T17:06:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@Moin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Moin)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686/1 "2024-04-13T17:06:38Z")
Today I discovered the toggle unlisted option.
This was a surprise because as a TL4 user, I was able to unlist posts and even see unlisted posts for quite some time. Is there a reason why this option is still only available for staff?
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### Author:  [@Jagster](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Jagster)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686/2 "2024-04-13T18:36:55Z")
I don’t know but I’m more suprised location of that toggle — why the heck it is under cog menu of composer 😳 Some hickup or are we getting possibility to unlist on postlevel?
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### Author:  [@Moin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Moin)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686/3 "2024-04-13T18:41:46Z")
> [@Jagster](#):
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> Some hickup or are we getting possibility to unlist on postlevel?
It is only shown when you start a new topic, not when you reply to a post.
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### Author:  [@Jagster](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Jagster)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686/4 "2024-04-13T18:58:23Z")
I see. It must be quite fresh improvement, but on other hand — I don’t use that menu too often. I kind of understand the point of this, because then there is not any risk to start peek-a-boo game anymore.
Ok. Let’s back to track.
TL4 has similar rights already and such semi ~~god~~ moderator may need ability like this. +1 if this stays as feature request.
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### Author:  [@Moin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Moin)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686/5 "2024-04-13T19:19:08Z")
> [@Jagster](#):
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> It must be quite fresh improvement
I don’t think so
> [@Unlisted topics: Making them more useful](https://meta.discourse.org/t/unlisted-topics-making-them-more-useful/47456/6):
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> Ability to toggle a topic unlisted has been added to the gear icon and is only available when creating a new topic. [image]
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### Author:  [@Jagster](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Jagster)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686/6 "2024-04-13T19:23:23Z")
That 2016 can’t be so… there is no chance I would miss the very first thing in that menu 🤔
Well, that’s not important.
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### Author:  [@Moin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Moin)
#### Post date: [July 9, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/allow-tl4-to-toggle-unlisted-before-publishing/303686/7 "2025-07-09T15:10:47Z")
I noticed you moved the option to unlist into the other menu.
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/33369](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/33369)
I had hoped that this change would also make the feature accessible to users with TL4 who are also allowed to unlist topics and view unlisted topics. Maybe now is the right time to make it possible?