# Any way to hide categories from Guests?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [5월 14, 2019, 2:37오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699 "2019-05-14T14:37:43Z")
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### Author:  [@orangeandblack5](https://meta.discourse.org/u/orangeandblack5)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 2:37오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/1 "2019-05-14T14:37:43Z")
Hello,
I was wondering if there was any way to make categories muted by default for guests, but allow users with accounts to see them normally (and also mute them if they so choose).
A bit of searching did not find this question asked before, although I will admit it’s entirely possible I used the wrong keywords.
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@orangeandblack5](https://meta.discourse.org/u/orangeandblack5)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 2:59오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/2 "2019-05-14T14:59:25Z")
For a bit more explanation of the reasoning behind this question - a forum I am a part of has recently been dealing with a transition to Discourse, and in doing to the visibility of forum games has shot _way_ up due to the latest post being the ones shown by default in pretty much every conventional way of viewing the forum.
While these games have been around for a long time, and administration does not wish to outright remove them, the old software simply didn’t show these categories in its latest feed by default. Thus, we wish to accomplish something similar here.
In investigating the statistics of the site, it was found that roughly half of all traffic comes from unregistered guest accounts. Therefore, simply muting these categories by default for new users has not resulted in any significant improvement of the situation.
Thus, we are hoping that it is possible to mute these categories for unregistered users somehow, and then we can simply pin a post telling new users with accounts how they may mute these categories on their account if they wish.
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### Author:  [@bts](https://meta.discourse.org/u/bts)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 3:23오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/3 "2019-05-14T15:23:46Z")
Have you looked at category permissions? If you go to a category page, click “edit” and then the “security” tab you can set permissions for what user groups can see, reply, and/or create topics in that category.
In this case, sounds like removing the default permissions setting (everyone) and adding a rule so `trust_level_0` users can `create / reply / see` the category might do the trick. You could also e.g. make it so tl0 (all users) can see, but only tl1 users can create / reply, or something like that.
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### Author:  [@orangeandblack5](https://meta.discourse.org/u/orangeandblack5)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 3:29오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/4 "2019-05-14T15:29:57Z")
The idea is for non-registered guests to be affected, but registered users to not be.
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### Author:  [@pfaffman](https://meta.discourse.org/u/pfaffman)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 3:33오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/5 "2019-05-14T15:33:14Z")
You can change the permissions to require trust level 0.
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### Author:  [@orangeandblack5](https://meta.discourse.org/u/orangeandblack5)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 3:38오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/6 "2019-05-14T15:38:15Z")
Ah, I see - that’s a great idea, if it works as intended!
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### Author:  [@orangeandblack5](https://meta.discourse.org/u/orangeandblack5)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 5:35오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/7 "2019-05-14T17:35:36Z")
Hmmmmm
Is there any way to allow unregistered users to see a category if they search it out, but have topics be muted for them?
Because unless I misunderstand, the above would completely block unregistered users from seeing these posts even if they specifically look for them. No?
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### Author:  [@Stephen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Stephen)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 5:39오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/8 "2019-05-14T17:39:54Z")
No, there isn’t.
It can’t appear in search but be hidden in the normal category view.
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### Author:  [@orangeandblack5](https://meta.discourse.org/u/orangeandblack5)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 5:41오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/9 "2019-05-14T17:41:20Z")
They don’t need to be hidden in Category view, just New/Latest.
As if they were muted.
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### Author:  [@schleifer](https://meta.discourse.org/u/schleifer)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 5:51오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/10 "2019-05-14T17:51:21Z")
You can suppress a category from latest topics for _all_ users, or you can default mute it for logged in users. The exact configuration you want is not possible because mute does not affect anons 🐁
That may change eventually:
> [@Is there a way to globally suppress a category from mailing list mode?](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-there-a-way-to-globally-suppress-a-category-from-mailing-list-mode/56758/6):
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> imo, default mute should apply to anon as well, that is simply an oversight in our current design.
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### Author:  [@orangeandblack5](https://meta.discourse.org/u/orangeandblack5)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 5:53오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/11 "2019-05-14T17:53:52Z")
@sam any chance this is coming soon?
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### Author:  [@orangeandblack5](https://meta.discourse.org/u/orangeandblack5)
#### Post date: [5월 14, 2019, 11:12오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/12 "2019-05-14T23:12:08Z")
And, I guess, more specifically - could it be made so that something could be default muted for guests but not for registered users (TL0 and above)?
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### Author:  [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [6월 13, 2019, 11:23오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/any-way-to-hide-categories-from-guests/117699/13 "2019-06-13T23:23:32Z")
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