# Apply a Group to All New Users
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [November 14, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054 "2018-11-14T19:33:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@swamidass](https://meta.discourse.org/u/swamidass)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054/1 "2018-11-14T19:33:19Z")
How do I set up a group to be applied to all new users?
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### Author:  [@zogstrip](https://meta.discourse.org/u/zogstrip)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054/2 "2018-11-14T20:18:38Z")
Why would you need such a thing? Why can’t you use [@everyone](https://meta.discourse.org/groups/everyone) instead?
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### Author:  [@swamidass](https://meta.discourse.org/u/swamidass)
#### Post date: [November 14, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054/3 "2018-11-14T20:40:26Z")
I’m need a way to give default access to categories that I can revoke for bad behavior, without resorting to silencing or suspension.
One strategy is to have a default group that can be lost.
Another way is to disallow members of a group, but discourse doesn’t allow for this.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054/4 "2018-11-15T07:47:56Z")
You could use trust levels for this, force the problem users into trust level 0 forever via admin console and grant the slightly higher rights to trust level 1
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### Author:  [@swamidass](https://meta.discourse.org/u/swamidass)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054/5 "2018-11-15T18:15:52Z")
That might work, but there are other restrictions on TL0…
Why not add that as a feature to allow a group to be applied or removed at certain triggers?
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054/6 "2018-11-15T23:58:44Z")
> [@swamidass](#):
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> Why not add that as a feature to allow a group to be applied or removed at certain triggers?
That means we need to define a rather complex UX for workflows inside the admin section. Technically you can achieve this today with a plugin and we have some prior art with the way we define parts of workflows with webhooks.
I do see us having a “drag and drop” workflow kind of thing in the next say 5-10 years, but it is not in the immediate or medium plan.
When I say “workflow” I mean using admin interfaces in some theoretical world you could define.
- When a user is created
- Then apply group X to user
Being “workflowy” it could allow for crazy stuff like
- When a user is created
- Send a notification to User Y with the text user bob was created.
Or,
- When user bob posts a reply
- make group test watch the topic
These kind of systems are mega flexible and allow for tons of magic, but are a very big project we have not even sketched out or planned.
Your immediate solutions here are either to use trust level OR build a plugin which has all the hooks to make your workflow happen.
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### Author:  [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/apply-a-group-to-all-new-users/102054/8 "2021-09-05T21:40:57Z")