# Aggiungere automaticamente moderatori/staff quando si utilizza "Invia messaggio personale"?

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/automatically-add-moderators-staff-when-using-make-personal-message/80931>\
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**Created:** [19 Febbraio 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/automatically-add-moderators-staff-when-using-make-personal-message/80931 "2018-02-19T03:28:53Z")\
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**Post date:** [19 Febbraio 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/automatically-add-moderators-staff-when-using-make-personal-message/80931/3 "2018-02-19T10:00:25Z")

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Very few situations where I use **Make Personal Message** involved behaviours where all Staff needed to receive an _automatic_ notification and be updated on every subsequent reply, and to invite all Staff automatically defies members’ expectations of what a Personal Message topic is.

Example: members get into a heated discussion or go slightly off-topic, but no bad will or rule-breaking as such, mod makes it private so they can thrash it out in peace and not derail topic – this does not require all Staff receive notifications until they log-in to remove themselves from the message topic.

If this is changed, I would have to explain that I made that section a PM because it was going off-topic, but also, all Staff are now getting notifications of every subsequent post – this is not **Make Personal Message** so much as **Take You Off The topic But Invite All Staff To Your Chat.**

Another thing I use **Make Personal Message** for is when a troll joins, and either begins a topic or derails an existing one: members will try to set them straight until it becomes obvious this isn’t possible, I ban troll then make the whole topic, or the derailed section, a PM to save my time, so I don’t have to individually notify people what happened.

I aim for transparent moderation and simply “disappearing” someone, who may have been passing themselves off as simply obtuse or opinionated, and who has got people riled, is not my style – if good members have invested time and effort, I like to give them closure.

This can be especially relevant where the troll is engaging in borderline rule-breaking but when checked, their IP address or other data exposes them as someone who was previously banned, and I wish to let everyone who interacted with their new persona know _why_ that person has been banned, where, perhaps, their actions may simply have seem confused or misguided.

Moderators (and anyone above TL1) _already_ have the option to Invite other Staff to the Personal Message topic very easily if it’s necessary.

And forums already have the option to have a private Staff section to log what was done in the event of rule-breaking, suspensions, and bans.

When I make a topic a PM _and have also taken any action that limits a member_ (ban, suspension, TL demotion or lock), I log these in Staff and copy-paste in relevant material to that post using select \> Quote from the topic.

Based on my most recent uses of this function, I believe it will create unecessary notifications to busy Staff, as members continue replying in what is ostensibly the private space a moderator created for them, and this creates notifications eating into the 100 notifications a day limit.

And the Staff in question would need to log-in to opt out of the PM manually to stop receiving these.

May I therefore suggest not making the Staff invitation automatic, but instead offering it as an option to select along the way?

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