# Aggiungere automaticamente moderatori/staff quando si utilizza "Invia messaggio personale"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature\ **Created:** [19 Febbraio 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/automatically-add-moderators-staff-when-using-make-personal-message/80931 "2018-02-19T03:28:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![Ubik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ubik/32/89095_2.png) [@Ubik](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Ubik)\ **Post date:** [19 Febbraio 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/automatically-add-moderators-staff-when-using-make-personal-message/80931/6 "2018-02-19T10:43:44Z")
> [@sam](#): > > If stuff gets heated for say 5 posts in a 50 post topic you are stuck first splitting the topic before turning it into a PM. Bringing it back to the topic is going to be an adventure. We may have crossed wires 🙂 as I did not mention bringing the newly-created Personal Message back to its original topic? But rather, using it to inform members what happened in the troll example with a single reply, or, to permit two members (occasionally more) to continue their back-and-forth without derailing a thread. > [@sam](#): > > Note, by default moderators have the tracking notification level on group pms to moderators, so this does not flood notifications, it goes into the aggregate one. It’s the same bucket as “a moderator replied to a flag”. But it will generate notifications with each new reply made, and they will contain the full text of replies sent immediately to the email inbox of all Staff, meaning the personal space I gave people to have their discussion is not private. Unless I am misunderstanding something, which is possible. I would anticipate members feeling rebuked by the fact any discussion made private is being monitored by Staff. It stops being a service to give people ability to hash out a topic between themselves, and becomes a kind of naughty-step/panopticon crossover. > [@sam](#): > > The reason I think adding mods makes sense is that, the reason, in general, for making something private is that you are performing some sort of moderation. So the default of making other moderators aware is sane. Perhaps this is a difference of how we conceive this role, and reporting: I consider anything that manually limits (or increases) member access to any function, and anything that consitutes a caution or warning, to be worthy of logging in the Staff section for all Staff to see; but, making things PM in the examples I gave above is slightly more like moving a topic to a better category, it IS a moderator action but it is not something all moderators need to receive _automatic_ notification of, and be plugged into until they opt out. And where the thread is moved to a PM and someone who took past has been TL-demoted, TL-locked, suspended, silenced, or banned as a result of their actions, I would log that in Staff so that all Staff have a single easily-searchable location for 1. the username of the banned person, plus their IP where relevant and 2. any data or comments I wish to add without sharing that with other members. Everything this would do is already covered by the ability to easily invite Staff which is there for all TL1+, and by the facility to have a Staff section to log moderator actions (or to be specific, the reason and background for these, since the action itself appears in Logs). This is why I suggested making adding all Staff to the newly-created PM _optional_ for forums who do not use a Staff section, or whose moderators don’t engage in this kind of reporting. --- _[View the full topic](https://meta.discourse.org/t/automatically-add-moderators-staff-when-using-make-personal-message/80931)._