# Avatar Flair (not Badges) for Groups
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576
**Category:** Feature
**Created:** [12 Agosto 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576 "2016-08-12T21:14:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [19 Settembre 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/41 "2016-09-19T15:19:55Z")
Oops, I’ll fix that. 😊
EDIT: fixed!
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### Author:  [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [22 Settembre 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/42 "2016-09-22T14:54:08Z")
Thanks, Neil! The avatar on the card looks great, and the size is fine. 🚀 Are you also going to add it to the user profile, or is there a reason you decided not to do that?
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### Author:  [@Er00](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Er00)
#### Post date: [22 Settembre 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/43 "2016-09-22T15:13:52Z")
This is ace, good job!
Now we just need an option to show the flair by a topic in topic lists if a member of that group has posted. 😉
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### Author:  [@Mittineague](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Mittineague)
#### Post date: [22 Settembre 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/44 "2016-09-22T15:30:37Z")
I sense impending maintenance problems.
What started off as something hooked to an individual display location is scope creeping to something that IMHO would be better hooked to the avatar itself.
But don’t listen to me, I tend to get apprehensive about this kind of stuff.
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### Author:  [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [22 Settembre 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/45 "2016-09-22T15:41:29Z")
Sometimes I like to see my avatar without any pieces of flair on it, like my profile page. We’re getting into personal preferences now… The profile page shows all your group memberships, so the flair (which only shows primary group) is redundant imo.
As for topic lists, the avatars there are small, so the flair would have to be scaled down and might be hard to see.
Those avatars are about the same size as the flair. On mobile, the flair might make sense in topic lists though since we only show one medium size avatar.
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### Author:  [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [22 Settembre 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/46 "2016-09-22T18:55:22Z")
This makes sense and I certainly don’t want to be responsible for encouraging scope creep. By all means, take it out of the user card if it’s getting in the way. I agree that on topic lists where the avatar is tiny it’s a little silly (and busy) to display flair.
But on our site we use flair to show who is a “core member”. From the faq:
> Core Members have a ⭐ next to their name. These are notable legal empowerment organizations who enjoy exclusive benefits and a special role in our community.
It’s great to see the star in the flow of discussions and I like it!
Maybe flair is the wrong place to expect this, but I think it would make sense to be able to see the star pretty much anywhere you see the avatar - including on the member profile. Right now there’s nothing there to indicate they are core members except when you click on the badge tab. An example:
Some indication, somewhere, would be appropriate. Maybe it should be handled in a different way on profile pages, e.g. by setting the title for core members.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [22 Settembre 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/47 "2016-09-22T20:18:38Z")
It’s definitely defensible on the user profile cc @neil I believe that is just the “small” version of the user page.
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### Author:  [@James\_Higginson](https://meta.discourse.org/u/James_Higginson)
#### Post date: [28 Settembre 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/48 "2016-09-28T08:14:59Z")
How did you do that? I don’t see the flair option on the automatic groups @BenLeong DId you have to duplicate the group to achieve it?
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### Author:  [@BenLeong](https://meta.discourse.org/u/BenLeong)
#### Post date: [28 Settembre 2016, 11:45am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/49 "2016-09-28T11:45:41Z")
Good point - we’ve added the flair images to custom usergroups, rather than the default/automatic ones.
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### Author:  [@James\_Higginson](https://meta.discourse.org/u/James_Higginson)
#### Post date: [28 Settembre 2016, 11:51am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/50 "2016-09-28T11:51:42Z")
Can you add flair to automatic groups or do we need to make custom/duplicate groups to add admin flair for example?
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### Author:  [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [28 Settembre 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/51 "2016-09-28T14:21:55Z")
Flair can only be added to the custom groups. There’s currently no way to use an automatic group as a primary group on a user.
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### Author:  [@Pirat](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Pirat)
#### Post date: [28 Settembre 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/52 "2016-09-28T14:25:25Z")
Avatar Flair **Very cool idea**
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### Author:  [@kevinprow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/kevinprow)
#### Post date: [2 Dicembre 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/53 "2016-12-02T20:04:21Z")
Is it an actual limitation of the system that flair can only be added to custom groups and not automatic ones? Or has it just not been done but is possible and I should therefore go pester the feature requests category? 🙂
It seems to me that adding flair for Staff would be a lot easier than having a manual Team group that I have to maintain.
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### Author:  [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [2 Dicembre 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/54 "2016-12-02T22:06:03Z")
It’s a case of no one demanding it loudly enough I guess. Also, pester is such a harsh word! #pr-welcome ?
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### Author:  [@brianfeister](https://meta.discourse.org/u/brianfeister)
#### Post date: [22 Aprile 2017, 11:16pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/55 "2017-04-22T23:16:11Z")
I’d love to be able to give my moderators flair by default in the system by either creating a Custom Group with membership linked to an Automatic group, or just adding more flair and other meta data to Automatic groups.
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### Author:  [@RyanK](https://meta.discourse.org/u/RyanK)
#### Post date: [2 Maggio 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/56 "2017-05-02T21:05:37Z")
Am I correct in my understanding that flair was never added to the main profile page? Sounded like @neil felt like it wasn’t necessary because groups can display on the full profile and there wasn’t a lot of strong feeling on the other side? Was it made optional?
We are currently hiding groups because we plan to use them to help staff recognize customer plan level or feature adoption, and don’t want non-staff to see that info about others. We want to know if someone has a BIZ account, but we don’t necessarily think that every other user should be privy to that info about someone. So we are actually trying to eliminate all links to groups in our community. Unfortunately we can’t seem to remove them from showing up on the user’s own profile page. Any thoughts on that?
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### Author:  [@BenLeong](https://meta.discourse.org/u/BenLeong)
#### Post date: [15 Maggio 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/62 "2017-05-15T01:43:10Z")
@neil I noticed an odd bug with Avatar Flair today, while cleaning up forum access for some ex-staff accounts.
While a user is in a custom group, that can be set as the “Primary group” via user admin. That part works exactly as expected.
When _removing_ a user from that group, the option to set a primary group disappears. In user admin, it looks like there is no primary group set for that user’s account, and there’s no option to remove the primary user group. Again, not unexpected: if they have no custom group, they can’t have a primary group.
→ **However** , their profile will still retain any avatar flair that was previously applied. Removing people from a custom usergroup doesn’t remove the flair, so (for example) they’re still visibly identified as a staff member on all their forum posts, even though they no longer have that level of access.
The only way I’ve found of removing this is to add them back to the relevant group, set their Primary group to “none,” and _then_ remove them from the group.
Is this intended behaviour? I can see how it might be (showing the staff flair on posts made while someone was still a staff member), but it feels a little clunky when trying to remove it from a profile.
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### Author:  [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [15 Maggio 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/63 "2017-05-15T15:01:39Z")
That sounds like a bug. 🐜 The user’s primary group should be cleared if they’re removed from that group.
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### Author:  [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [17 Maggio 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/64 "2017-05-17T14:52:46Z")
8 posts were split to a new topic: [Hidden Group Membership](https://meta.discourse.org/t/hidden-group-membership/62884)
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### Author:  [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [17 Maggio 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/avatar-flair-not-badges-for-groups/48576/65 "2017-05-17T15:57:33Z")
@BenLeong I was able to reproduce the bug. It happens if you do it from /admin/users/username here by clicking the x:
Doing it from the groups interface clears the primary group as expected. I’ll fix.
EDIT: fixed
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