# Badge Discussion: Like Ratios + Spending Likes **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature\ **Tags:** badges\ **Created:** [2016年三月14日 19:51 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036 "2016-03-14T19:51:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DeanMarkTaylor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/deanmarktaylor/32/102462_2.png) [@DeanMarkTaylor](https://meta.discourse.org/u/DeanMarkTaylor)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月16日 22:39 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/41 "2016-03-16T22:39:57Z")
> Note the additional multipliers per trust level. ---
**Author:** ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月16日 22:56 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/42 "2016-03-16T22:56:58Z")
Thanks @DeanMarkTaylor! Now that I have some numbers to work with… @pfaffman pointed out that long-term members don’t need this kind of encouragement. I would disagree here. I feel it is just as important to keep your long term users engaged, happy, and participating as it is to train new users to use likes. For new user through TL1, they need 50 likes in a day to receive this badge. That limit isn’t too high, but I feel that one is unlikely to hit it unless they really like giving likes, or a site is very, very active. I would assume that this like limit was was tweaked based on feedback back when it was first instituted, and thus is at a level where the majority of new users don’t hit it. Once a user is around for at least 15 days and has regular participation on the site, their limit goes up to 75. Be really, really active and hit 50 days and your limit goes up to 100 (assuming the multipliers are not cumulative). Get the manual promotion to TL4 and the limit is now 150. 150 is a lot of likes. At Stonehearth we average 100 posts a day. So while a new user would only need to like ~1/2 of the posts in a day to hit their limit, a long-term user would need to like every new post, plus half of the posts from the previous day. Unlike some badges with high numbers required to gain (like the Nice share/post/topic badge), this badge requires a single user to click like `x` times, and they have only 24 hours to do so. The other like related badges have no time limit. **td;dr:** I am concerned about the difficulty for long-term users to achieve this badge, and it seems to be the only badge create thus far that is affected by a user’s trust level (although somewhat indirectly). ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月16日 22:59 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/43 "2016-03-16T22:59:17Z")
Agreed, on the team call today we decided to make the likes cast per day badge hard code to 50 rather than keying on the rate limit being hit. ---
**Author:** ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月16日 23:00 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/44 "2016-03-16T23:00:39Z")
Thanks for the clarification @codinghorror! Will the badge description be changed at all to cover this, or will this be “transparently” occurring in the background? ---
**Author:** ![TheMountainThatRoars](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/themountainthatroars/32/51804_2.png) [@TheMountainThatRoars](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TheMountainThatRoars)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月17日 01:49 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/45 "2016-03-17T01:49:36Z")
I might disagree with you here… ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/b/8/b859b8195c5f6cc24bffea4ba275077f16f1f0d0.png) We’ve had a surge of like spam once the badges were found out. Granted, we are only one forum. ---
**Author:** ![riking](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/riking/32/170938_2.png) [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月17日 05:57 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/46 "2016-03-17T05:57:23Z")
I think it may be time for a few new categories on the Badges page… “Community” is getting pretty dang big. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/1/3/136fdd1a38af51f130072b30aa5634c4f9fa1a85.png) ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月17日 06:50 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/47 "2016-03-17T06:50:37Z")
Feel free to propose a new category there ---
**Author:** ![riking](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/riking/32/170938_2.png) [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月17日 15:32 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/48 "2016-03-17T15:32:50Z")
Here’s my first pass at reallocating the badges to groups: First Flag: Community → Getting Started Editor: Community → Getting Started **Welcome** : Community → Likes Appreciated, Out of Love, Thank You, Gives Back, My Cup Runneth Over, Respected, Admired, Crazy in Love, Empathetic: Community → Likes Nice, Good, Great Share: Community → Promotion Popular, Hot, Famous Link: Community → Posting Promoter, Campaigner, Champion: Community → Promotion Anniversary: Getting Started i suppose? ---
**Author:** ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月17日 16:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/49 "2016-03-17T16:17:41Z")
尝试按照 @riking 的帖子操作，但过程有些困难，所以我参考了[徽章](https://meta.discourse.org/badges)页面的方式将其拆分。以下是我的整理结果： ## 入门 Autobiographer - 铜 First Like - 铜 First Link - 铜 First Quote - 铜 First Share - 铜 First Flag - 铜 Read Guidelines - 铜 Reader - 铜 Editor - 铜 ## 社区建设 1 year anniversary - 银 Tech Support - 银 Scribe - 金 ## 发帖 Popular Link - 铜 Nice Post - 铜 Nice Topic - 铜 Hot Link - 银 Good Post - 银 Good Topic - 银 Famous Link - 金 Great Post - 金 Great Topic - 金 ## 信任等级 Basic - 铜 Member - 铜 Regular - 银 Leader - 金 ## 测试 Bug Reporter - 铜 Tester - 银 Senior Tester - 银 ## 开发 Contributor - 铜 Great contributor - 银 Plugin Author - 银 Amazing contributor - 金 ## 点赞 Welcome - 铜 Appreciated - 铜 Out of Love - 铜 Thank You - 铜 Respected - 银 My Cup Runneth Over - 银 Gives Back - 银 Admired - 金 Crazy in Love - 金 Empathetic - 金 ## 推广 Promoter - 铜 Nice Share - 铜 Campaigner - 银 Good Share - 银 Champion - 金 Great Share - 金 ---
**Author:** ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月17日 16:19 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/50 "2016-03-17T16:19:26Z")
I wikified the above post if anyone wants to modify it further. I will say I am questioning why Welcome is in a separate category from First Like, seeing as the new like related badges are for both receiving and giving likes. ---
**Author:** ![riking](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/riking/32/170938_2.png) [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月17日 16:43 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/51 "2016-03-17T16:43:12Z")
> [@jomaxro](#): > > Tech Support - Silver > Scribe - Gold Note that these are custom badges on Meta only. ---
**Author:** ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月17日 17:49 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/52 "2016-03-17T17:49:33Z")
As are the testing and contributing categories: > [@jomaxro](#): > > Contributor - Bronze > Great contributor - Silver > Plugin Author - Silver > Amazing contributor - Gold > > Bug Reporter - Bronze > Tester - Silver > Senior Tester - Silver ---
**Author:** ![kk091](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/kk091/32/61322_2.png) [@kk091](https://meta.discourse.org/u/kk091)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月19日 19:20 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/53 "2016-03-19T19:20:28Z")
A quick question: Do moderators have unlimited ❤s? I’m a moderator and trust level 4 on [forum.gethopscotch.com](http://forum.gethopscotch.com), and I’ve liked over 1,500 posts in that forum and still haven’t run out of likes. If this is the case, are some badges unreachable? ---
**Author:** ![Yuun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/977dab/32.png) [@Yuun](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Yuun)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月19日 19:48 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/54 "2016-03-19T19:48:38Z")
There are admin settings that give TL2/TL3/TL4 additional likes per day by a specified factor. It’s not unlimited, but if that factor was really high it’s conceivable that you wouldn’t reach it. e.g. for TL4: `tl4 additional likes per day multiplier` is the name of the setting. ---
**Author:** ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月19日 20:36 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/55 "2016-03-19T20:36:09Z")
@kk091: Did you like over 1,500 likes in 24 hours, or in total? The like limit is per 24 hours. Also, for the purpose of these badges, the “exceeding like limit” badge is coded to the base like limit, and is not affected by the TL2/3/4 multiplier - otherwise the badge would be “biased” against higher TL users. ---
**Author:** ![Gilbert\_189](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/gilbert_189/32/59197_2.png) [@Gilbert\_189](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Gilbert_189)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月20日 01:58 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/56 "2016-03-20T01:58:10Z")
I am on the same forum as her and I believe I can answer this. She liked well over 1,500 posts. I should know, I was one of the people she “spam liked”! 😱😄 Anyway, it was all today. As for the other portion of your post, that’s really interesting! Thanks for sharing! ---
**Author:** ![kk091](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/kk091/32/61322_2.png) [@kk091](https://meta.discourse.org/u/kk091)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月20日 16:10 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/57 "2016-03-20T16:10:06Z")
I liked over 1,500 in around than five hours, which I believe is less than a day 😂. And what is normally the base like limit? ---
**Author:** ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月20日 16:25 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/58 "2016-03-20T16:25:22Z")
50… …with a TL4 multiplier of 3 you get 150. Seems you gained a zero somehow, unless staff are exempt? ---
**Author:** ![erlend\_sh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/erlend_sh/32/119475_2.png) [@erlend\_sh](https://meta.discourse.org/u/erlend_sh)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月20日 21:27 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/59 "2016-03-20T21:27:12Z")
> [@jomaxro](#): > > unless staff are exempt? They are :dealwithit: ---
**Author:** ![kk091](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/kk091/32/61322_2.png) [@kk091](https://meta.discourse.org/u/kk091)\ **Post date:** [2016年三月21日 00:35 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036/60 "2016-03-21T00:35:01Z")
So if they are, it’s impossible to reach some of the badges, correct? Is there anyway to change this? [上一頁](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036.md?page=2) [下一頁](https://meta.discourse.org/t/badge-discussion-like-ratios-spending-likes/41036.md?page=4)