# Bootstrap mode - effects?

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673
**Category:** Support
**Tags:** bootstrap-mode
**Created:** [August 8, 2024, 6:14am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673 "2024-08-08T06:14:49Z")
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### Author: ![ToddZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/toddz/32/328350_2.png) [@ToddZ](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ToddZ)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2024, 6:14am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673/1 "2024-08-08T06:14:49Z")

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I’m a little unclear as to what I should be seeing with Bootstrap Mode active.  
(Self-hosted, 3.4.0.beta1-dev.)

I’ve never touched the setting, and we’re under the default user threshold of 50, so based on what I’ve read here I’d expect to see:

- new users assigned TL1
- new users digest frequency set to 1 Day
- admin users see some kind of banner informing of Bootstrap Mode
- Getting Started button in header

As an admin, I’m seeing:

- ❌ new users assigned TL0
- ❌ new users digest frequency set to 1 Week
- ❌ never any banner about Bootstrap Mode
- ✅ Getting Started button in header

Wondering what I’m missing here… Could some other settings be overriding Bootstrap Mode?

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### Author: ![Moin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/moin/32/554653_2.png) [@Moin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Moin)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673/2 "2024-08-08T20:18:55Z")

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> [@ToddZ](#):
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> As an admin, I’m seeing:
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> - ❌ new users assigned TL0
> - ❌ new users digest frequency set to 1 Week

Maybe you have changed these settings. Even in bootstap mode you can change them. It only sets a different default for those settings.

> [@ToddZ](#):
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> never any banner about Bootstrap Mode

I think the banners were removed

> [@Updates to new site experience and the Getting Started guide](https://meta.discourse.org/t/updates-to-new-site-experience-and-the-getting-started-guide/273189/1):
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> Note: the Getting started link replaces the “bootstrap mode” banners we previously showed persistently to admins.

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### Author: ![ToddZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/toddz/32/328350_2.png) [@ToddZ](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ToddZ)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673/3 "2024-08-09T23:24:20Z")

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Ah, thanks for clarifying those details. Things make sense now. I did change the new user TL and the summary settings at some point – just thought bootstrap was some kind of background override.

(I searched, but couldn’t find official documentation for bootstrap mode. Seems it’s usually described in posts here as _“it gives the first 50 users TL1 and daily digests”_ without explaining the mechanism. This leads to some misunderstandings.)

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### Author: ![tobiaseigen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/tobiaseigen/32/539204_2.png) [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673/4 "2024-08-21T20:18:03Z")

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Did you read the admin getting started guide, seeded with your new site? There is some explanation in there.

Maybe a documentation topic is indeed a good idea. We could link to it from the site setting.

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### Author: ![ToddZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/toddz/32/328350_2.png) [@ToddZ](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ToddZ)
#### Post date: [August 21, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673/7 "2024-08-21T21:04:19Z")

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I did, thanks – the Getting Started admin guide likewise mentions the effects of Bootstrap mode, but not the mechanism. This left room for me to assume that Bootstrap mode was a background rule overriding admin settings, not a direct temporary _change_ to admin settings. So as I explored these things independently, it didn’t seem to add up.

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### Author: ![ToddZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/toddz/32/328350_2.png) [@ToddZ](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ToddZ)
#### Post date: [August 22, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673/9 "2024-08-22T21:00:27Z")

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I see a Bootstrap Mode wiki doc just appeared! 🥳

> [@Understanding and managing bootstrap mode](https://meta.discourse.org/t/understanding-and-managing-bootstrap-mode/322876):
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> warning Bootstrap mode has been removed in Feb/2026 bookmark This guide explains how Discourse’s bootstrap mode works, when it applies, and how to manage it. person_raising_hand Required user level: Administrators Bootstrap mode is a special state during the initial stages of your Discourse site, designed to facilitate rapid community growth. This guide will help you recognize bootstrap mode, understand its effects, and know when it concludes. Detecting bootstrap mode The most visi…

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### Author: ![system](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/system/32/443519_2.png) [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/bootstrap-mode-effects/320673/10 "2024-09-21T21:00:58Z")

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