# Can Admins see all Deleted PMs?

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/can-admins-see-all-deleted-pms/79299>\
**Category:** Product Support\
**Created:** [January 29, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/can-admins-see-all-deleted-pms/79299 "2018-01-29T19:39:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/can-admins-see-all-deleted-pms/79299/2 "2018-01-29T19:45:19Z")

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> [@Daquantics](#):
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> So, I’m confused. Is it possible for users to send Private Messages, then delete them in a way that Admins can no longer see them?

Not that I’m aware of. Admins can see everything on the site, even deleted content. Users cannot self-delete topics, only posts. PMs, while different from a public topic, are still inherently topics that users cannot self-delete. Check staff logs? Perhaps another staff member deleted them?

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