조금 더 자세한 답변: 기술적으로는 가능하지만, 기술적인 어려움에 직면할 수 있으며, 서버 사양이 매우 낮아 포럼이 느려지거나 때때로 멈추는 문제가 발생할 가능성이 큽니다. 수수료가 없더라도 신용카드가 필요할 가능성이 높습니다.
결국, 완전히 기능하는 Discourse 포럼과 좋은 사용자 경험을 원한다면 무료로 이를 제공받을 수는 없습니다.
왜 무료로 Discourse 포럼을 쉽게 설정할 수 없을까요?
Discourse에는 몇 가지 요구 사항이 있습니다. SSH 접근이 가능한 Linux 서버, 이메일 제공업체 및 도메인 이름이 필요합니다. 무료 서비스를 찾을 수는 있지만, 항상 심각한 제한 사항이 따릅니다. 또한 다양한 이유로 신용카드 번호를 요구하는 경우가 많습니다.
경고: AWS 인스턴스를 1분이라도 중지하면 IP가 재할당되고 Discourse가 중단됩니다. 책임 소재를 스스로 판단하고 사용하십시오.
무료 이메일 발송 서비스
이론적으로 SMTP를 제공하는 어떤 서비스든 사용할 수 있지만, Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail과 같은 무료 서비스나 ISP 이메일 제공업체는 보통 서비스 약관에서 이러한 용도를 명시적으로 금지합니다.
또한 Discourse 기능의 정상적인 작동에 간섭을 줄 수 있는 심각한 전송 속도 제한이 있을 가능성이 큽니다.
AWS에서 다른 VM과 함께 사이트를 호스팅하면 750시간을 초과할 가능성이 높으며, 시간당 약 0.0125달러가 청구됩니다. 간단히 말해, AWS 계정에서 Discourse 사이트만 호스팅하세요. SSD 또는 시간 한도를 초과하면 요금이 청구됩니다. 지불할 수 없다면 AWS 계정이 정지됩니다. ↩︎
Additionally, the web hosting for your community is the cheapest part by far.
The biggest cost is the time and energy it will take from you and your seeded members to make it a success. If you’re hung up on the cost for hosting, you might not fully appreciate what you are taking on.
That sounds nice, but only sounds it. At hobbylevel in the meaning ”no one gets money at all or enough” hosting is the most expensive part and it has nothing to do with how much or little one appreciates.
Around 240 USD/EUR/what ever a year goes from bank account. Time and energy not.
Agree that cashflow is a different kind of resource than time and energy. But for the record, here are my 12 month (cash) costs for the larger of my two small forums:
domain (namecheap) $14.16
hosting (digital ocean) $72
mail service (mailgun) $15.74
which comes to just over $100 (although I paid in pounds sterling).
Another thought about cost: if you might in future need to shut down your forum because you can’t afford it, that’s a strong negative for your community even from the beginning. You need to have commitment to keep the thing running. So be prepared to bear the cost, or be explicit about the need for an annual funding drive, if that’s what will be needed.
Time may not go through a bank account, but you’re spending it and it’s much more valuable than cash.
One can make more money. You can spend some, and replace it.
You can’t really make more time (Leaving aside leverage for the moment). Once it’s spent, it’s gone. You can’t really put deposits in that bank account, but it has a balance.
How one values their time monetarily is personal of course. But I would imagine for most people that number would be greater than the dollar a day hosting will cost.
So from that standpoint, hosting is by far the least expensive thing… unless one values their time at less than 13c per working hour. (Dollar a day divided by eight working hours)
So I say again, if the hosting cost seems like an obstacle, that person is not aware of the full effort that it’s going to take to launch and build a community.
Which might be good in a way, because if they did know, they probably wouldn’t launch it
As a freelancer, absolutely can atest to TIME = MONEY!!
Your original point was well made!
On my biggest forum I’ve definitely poured more money in the form of missed earnings than it’s cost to run the infrastructure, I would imagine at least by a factor of 50x, if not more.
Then again, there’s no putting a value on how rewarding the hobby can be and how it contributes to others lives too?
I may be wrong, but I have the feeling that most of the people asking for free hosting on meta are teenagers. They often say they have no credit card and when it’s not mentioned, they seem almost always very reluctant to spend even 1 cent.
In my day as a teenager I worked in a restaurant and many of my friends did a paper round.
$20 a month is not a lot to gather if you get a job (in many countries), even as a young person. You could also do some work for your parents or elder siblings who can supervise you and teach you skills.
Probably the best thing is to speak to a parent or guardian about what you want to do, why, how and what you need.
Regarding this edit, I’d be in favor of not mentioning paid plans on this faq since it is specifically about free services, but because a wiki is a community-based work, it’d be good to hear more opinions
‘Running Discourse on a Budget’ could be its own topic, but I think there is value in going over the various things needed (e.g. VPS, domain, email), clarifying whether each is realistically obtainable for free, and in cases where that’s not the case, offering examples - ideally not many - of low-cost options. It will almost certainly be the next question the reader will have, so addressing it makes sense to me.
If you feel it’s an example of scope creep, it’s your topic and I respect your choice on the matter.
My preference would be not to remove them, as even if there was another topic for low-cost options, I think repeatedly saying “see [same link every time] for more info” would make it less enjoyable to read.
edit: Just to clarify, I haven’t personally edited the OP. I only saw this topic when you posted in it.
The hosting part is the most expensive and low-cost options are covered here: Recommended Hosting Providers for Self Hosters (it’s linked in the wiki by the way)
I think there is somewhere a discussion about email providers, and as for the registrars, I don’t know.
I got curious about freenom after reading this topic and looked it up. There is people saying it’s a scam, and that their business model is taking back domains that have some traffic and parking them
You’d would probably be better served with a subdomain, like {yourname}.duckdns.org
For a testing instance, I would try Google cloud run, because it can scale to zero, that means when there isn’t anyone using it it’s turned off, and it gets on automatically when needed
I haven’t run into any issues with them given I’ve never used it all that much, I e just used it for smaller things and when I can’t afford a domain. They seem fine though.
I wanted to give a try to AWS, but their EC2 instances are free tier and not always free tier.
The difference is that the 750 free hours per month offer is only valid for the first year.
Q: What is the AWS Free Tier?
The AWS Free Tier provides customers the ability to explore and try out AWS services free of charge up to specified limits for each service. The Free Tier is comprised of three different types of offerings, a 12-month Free Tier, an Always Free offer, and short term trials.
Services with a 12-month Free Tier allow customers to use the product for free up to specified limits for one year from the date the account was created.
Services with an Always Free offer allow customers to use the product for free up to specified limits as long as they are an AWS customer.
Services with a short term trial are free to use for a specified period of time or up to a one-time limit depending on the service selected. Details on the limits and services provided for free are detailed in each card on the Free Tier page. If your application use exceeds the free tier limits, you simply pay standard, pay-as-you-go service rates (see each service page for full pricing details). Restrictions apply; see offer terms for more details.
That was the $5 plan plus 20% VAT for me in the UK, making $6 per month. The price has increased for the same plan, and I’m now paying $7.20 per month. Hetzner is cheaper and I’d migrate there if I had the energy to do the work - I already use them for another forum. (But none of this answers the “for free” part of the topic.)
경고: AWS 인스턴스를 1분이라도 중지하면 IP가 재할당되고 Discourse가 중단됩니다. 책임 소재를 스스로 판단하고 사용하십시오.
