# Codenames for post-2.0 Discourse releases
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212
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**Created:** [6월 5, 2018, 10:38오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212 "2018-06-05T22:38:05Z")
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [6월 5, 2018, 10:38오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/1 "2018-06-05T22:38:05Z")
Well, it’s finally happened. We’ve worked on Discourse long enough to have [ten official releases](https://meta.discourse.org/c/releases) in slightly under four years! 🎉
> Discourse 1.0 – [Aug 26, 2014](https://blog.discourse.org/2014/08/introducing-discourse-1-0/)
> Discourse 2.0 – [May 31, 2018](https://blog.discourse.org/2018/05/discourse-2-0-released/)
Harkening to classic roman/greek era definitions of “forum” ..
.. we chose [the list of ten Attic orators](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attic_orators) way back when to tag the releases with something kinda fun and Discourse-y.
- [Aeschines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeschines) 1.1
- [Andocides](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andocides) 1.2
- [Antiphon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiphon_(person)) 1.3
- [Demosthenes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demosthenes) 1.4
- [Dinarchus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinarchus) 1.5
- [Hypereides](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypereides) 1.6
- [Isaeus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaeus) 1.7
- [Isocrates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isocrates) 1.8
- [Lycurgus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycurgus_of_Athens) 1.9
- [Lysias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysias) 2.0
Try to imagine this person is pressing the Reply button with his free hand:
And this is also why our [staff pictures](https://www.discourse.org/team) are styled as classic marble statues / busts.
Discourse is fundamentally about _human communication_, which funnily enough literally translates to “running to and fro”:
So we now need a new set of release codenames, which I’ll describe in a reply.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [6월 5, 2018, 10:46오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/2 "2018-06-05T22:46:50Z")
What is Discourse, if not a MIRACULOUS INCREDIBLE INVENTION THAT FURTHERED HUMAN COMMUNICATION!
> **[History of communication](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_communication)**
>
> The history of communication technologies (media and appropriate inscription tools) have evolved in tandem with shifts in political and economic systems, and by extension, systems of power. Communication can range from very subtle processes of exchange to full conversations and mass communication. The history of communication itself can be traced back since the origin of speech circa 100,000 BCE. The use of technology in communication may be considered since the first use of symbols about 30,0
> **[History of telecommunication](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_telecommunication)**
>
> The history of telecommunication began with the use of smoke signals and drums in Africa, Asia, and the Americas. In the 1790s, the first fixed semaphore systems emerged in Europe. However, it was not until the 1830s that electrical telecommunication systems started to appear. This article details the history of telecommunication and the individuals who helped make telecommunication systems what they are today. The history of telecommunication is an important part of the larger history of commu...
So combining these two lists handily takes us through 3.0 and even a bit beyond:
- petroglyph 2.1
- pictogram 2.2
- ideogram 2.3
- writing 2.4
- alphabet 2.5
- telegraph 2.6
- telephone 2.7
- radio 2.8
- television 2.9
- videotelephony 3.0
- satellite 3.1
- internet 3.2
To make it a bit more interesting we will be selecting specific _examples_ of said innovation, rather than the general concept, so rather than
- Discourse 2.1 Petroglyph
- Discourse 2.2 Pictogram
- Discourse 2.6 Telegraph
we will have
- Discourse 2.1 [Bhimbetka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhimbetka_rock_shelters)
- Discourse 2.2 [La Pasiega](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_La_Pasiega)
- Discourse 2.6 [Baudot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code)
If anyone wants to propose specific examples for releases 2.3 - 2.5, or 2.7 - 3.2 feel free to do so 😉
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### Author:  [@Nichalas\_Petranek](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Nichalas_Petranek)
#### Post date: [6월 6, 2018, 4:33오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/3 "2018-06-06T04:33:08Z")
For Discourse 2.5 I propose [Ugarit](http://www.ancient-origins.net/history/z-alphabet-origins-and-most-ancient-written-languages-007873)
as it’s the region of the Ugaritic Scripts, a better known antecedent to our modern day alphabet.
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### Author:  [@notriddle](https://meta.discourse.org/u/notriddle)
#### Post date: [6월 6, 2018, 4:59오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/4 "2018-06-06T04:59:17Z")
Anyone opposed to calling 2.9 Nipkow, and 3.1 Sputnik?
> **[Nipkow disk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipkow_disk)**
>
> A Nipkow disk (sometimes Anglicized as Nipkov disk; patented in 1884), also known as scanning disk, is a mechanical, rotating, geometrically operating image scanning device, patented by Paul Gottlieb Nipkow in Berlin. This scanning disk was a fundamental component in mechanical television, and thus the first televisions, through the 1920s and 1930s.
> The device is a mechanically spinning disk of any suitable material (metal, plastic, cardboard, etc.), with a series of equally-distanced circular h...
> **[Sputnik 1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1)**
>
> Sputnik 1 (/ˈspʌtnɪk, ˈspʊtnɪk/, Russian: Спутник-1, Satellite 1), often referred to as simply Sputnik, was the first artificial Earth satellite. It was launched into an elliptical low Earth orbit by the Soviet Union on 4 October 1957 as part of the Soviet space program. It sent a radio signal back to Earth for three weeks before its three silver-zinc batteries became depleted. Aerodynamic drag caused it to fall back into the atmosphere on 4 January 1958.
> It was a polished metal sphere 58 c...
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### Author:  [@hellekin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/hellekin)
#### Post date: [6월 8, 2018, 9:28오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/7 "2018-06-08T09:28:51Z")
- ideogram 2.3 – Maybe ‘arobase’?
- television 2.9 – [Slow-scan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow-scan_television) although Nipkow Disk is also a great choice, and Slow-scan can go to videotelephony as well (I have fond memories of poetry readings in the mid-90s with the [Electronic Café](http://journalpanorama.org/interrogating-invention-electronic-cafe-and-the-politics-of-technology/) in Santa Monica from the basement of a cybercafe in Paris using a PicturePhone mod I and flashing puppets that were stored in the basement…)
- videotelephony 3.0 – [PicturePhone](http://ethw.org/Picturephone). While I’m at it, I also remember a really funny 1996 experience with a 5 ISDN lines PictureTel (3 were used for video, and 2 for audio): we were waiting for a call and the lines started blinking. It took about a minute for all five to light up and show the picture of a corporate guy who looks at us, a bit puzzled, and goes: “Sorry, wrong number.” before he hanged up.
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### Author:  [@Nichalas\_Petranek](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Nichalas_Petranek)
#### Post date: [9월 14, 2018, 7:40오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/8 "2018-09-14T07:40:47Z")
@codinghorror I’ve noticed that 2.3 was given a name. Has a list of names been set in stone yet for releases not yet named?
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [9월 14, 2018, 8:10오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/9 "2018-09-14T08:10:02Z")
Feel free to suggest names for future releases, following the patterns defined above.
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### Author:  [@tshenry](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tshenry)
#### Post date: [9월 15, 2018, 12:09오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/10 "2018-09-15T12:09:42Z")
Discourse 2.4 [Calligraphy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calligraphy)
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [1월 27, 2019, 11:58오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/11 "2019-01-27T23:58:19Z")
Some notes on the history of the Latin alphabet
> **[Evolution of the Alphabet](https://usefulcharts.com/blogs/charts/evolution-of-the-english-alphabet)**
>
> Buy the poster | Watch a video explanation
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [2월 1, 2019, 1:43오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/12 "2019-02-01T01:43:48Z")
I don’t think that’s quite a fit .. 2.4 is “writing”, so going with
> **[Cuneiform](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform)**
>
> Cuneiform\[note 1\] is a logo-syllabic writing system that was used to write several languages of the ancient Near East. The script was in active use from the early Bronze Age until the 1st century BC. Cuneiform scripts are marked by and named for the characteristic wedge-shaped impressions (Latin: cuneus) which form their signs. Cuneiform is the earliest known writing system and was originally developed to write the Sumerian language of southern Mesopotamia (modern Iraq).
> Over the course of its...
Some idea of timeline:
| | | | |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 2.1 | petroglyph | Bhimbetka | ~30,000 years ago |
| 2.2 | pictogram | La Pasiega | ~15,000 years ago |
| 2.3 | ideogram | Vinča | ~4500 BC |
| 2.4 | writing | Cuneiform | ~2600 BC |
Next up, alphabet is also looking clearly Greek, at 800 BC
> By at least the 8th century BCE the Greeks borrowed the Phoenician alphabet and adapted it to their own language, creating in the process the first “true” alphabet, in which vowels were accorded equal status with consonants. According to Greek legends transmitted by Herodotus, the alphabet was brought from Phoenicia to Greece by Cadmos. The letters of the Greek alphabet are the same as those of the Phoenician alphabet, and both alphabets are arranged in the same order.
So let’s plan ahead for future releases 🥳
| | | | |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 2.5 | alphabet | [Greek](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Greek_alphabet) | 800 BC |
| 2.6 | telegraph | [Baudot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code) | 1870 AD |
| 2.7 | telephone | [Strowger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strowger_switch) | 1891 AD |
| 2.8 | radio | [Audion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audion) | 1906 AD |
| 2.9 | television | [Nipkow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipkow_disk) | 1920 AD |
| 3.1 | satellite | [Telstar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstar) | 1962 AD |
| 3.2 | videotelephony | [PicturePhone](http://ethw.org/Picturephone) | 1964 AD |
| 3.3 | internet | [Arpanet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET) | 1983 AD |
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [3월 11, 2019, 2:07오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/13 "2019-03-11T02:07:21Z")
The [very first coded symbols](https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23230990-700-in-search-of-the-very-first-coded-symbols/) – this would be ~15,000 years ago in the “pictogram” era, our previous release 2.2.
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### Author:  [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)
#### Post date: [12월 1, 2020, 10:34오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/15 "2020-12-01T22:34:48Z")
> [@codinghorror](#):
>
> 라틴 문자의 역사에 대한 몇 가지 노트
문자 W의 역사
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg2j7mZ9-2Y)
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [1월 7, 2022, 6:29오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/codenames-for-post-2-0-discourse-releases/89212/16 "2022-01-07T06:29:56Z")
> [@codinghorror](#):
>
> 고전적인 로마/그리스 시대의 ‘포럼(forum)’의 정의에 빗대어 말하자면…
> 놀랍게도 forum(포럼), forest(숲), foreign(외국의), forfeit(포기/몰수), hors d’oeuvre(안주), thyroid(갑상선) 모두 같은 어원에서 유래했습니다: ‘바깥, 야외’를 의미하는 _for_.
>
> - **고대 그리스에서 포럼은 야외에 있었습니다**
> - 숲은 당연히 바깥에 있습니다
> - 외국인이라는 말은 국경 바깥에서 온 사람을 의미합니다
> - forfeit은 잘못된 행동으로 인해 무언가를 잃는 것을 의미하지만, 원래 forfeit은 잘못된 행동 자체를 뜻했습니다: 허용되는 행동의 범위를 **벗어난** 것
> - hors d’oeuvre는 정규 식사 시간 외에 제공되는 작은 간식입니다
>
> 이 모든 단어는 ‘문’을 의미하는 인도유럽어족의 뿌리 _dhwer_에서 유래했습니다 (문 → 야외). 갑상선(thyroid)이 그렇게 이름 붙여진 이유는 그것이 문 모양과 약간 닮았기 때문이며, -oid 접미사는 항상 ‘~ 모양의’를 의미합니다. humanoid(인간 모양), android(인간 모양), asteroid(별 모양)와 같은 경우처럼요.