# 说服固执的管理员允许我使用 Discourse

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**Created:** [2019 年1 月 11 日 20:46 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/convincing-a-stubborn-admin-to-let-me-use-discourse/106314 "2019-01-11T20:46:16Z")\
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One of my community admins, who’s a really great guy and a great friend of mine (so I don’t wanna kick him off) is being really stubborn with me about Discourse. He wants us to use phpBB because it “looks more like a forum” and “is not a boutique like Discourse” but I have many reasons to prefer Discourse.

- It’s more modern.
- Plugins are a lot easier to install.
- You can’t do much damage without having SSH access (you can’t screw with `app.yml`, etc) if you try to hack Discourse and get in to an admin account.
- Its database is self-contained, you don’t need to mess with SQL.
- It’s a lot easier to customize and configure.
- Its plugins are a lot more polished than phpBB’s
- From what I can tell it’s very hard to be a spambot on a Discourse forum.
- It can be updated through the browser.
- It supports webhooks, oauth, openid connect, it has a built in API, it can be an sso provider, it can act like StackOverflow, it can be a wiki, it can be a bugtracker, it can be all three at once, point is it’s very flexible.

But his reasons for severely disliking Discourse are as follows:

- It doesn’t support nested categories beyond one level of nesting.
- It feels like a “clean UI over top of dongle-y features” (his words, not mine)
- “phpBB feels more like forum posts to me”

However, Discourse has many features (or has plugins that implement said features) that I downright need that phpBB doesn’t have.

- OpenID Connect: so we can do SSO with our Keycloak-based [Bit Phoenix Accounts](https://wiki.bitphoenixsoftware/index.php/BitPhoenix:Bit_Phoenix_Account)
- Discourse Voting, Discourse Solved, Discourse Q&A - so we can do StackOverflow-style Q&A threads as well as bug reports/feature requests.
- It’s a lot easier to customize - I really hate writing CSS and twig templating to customize phpBB.
- It uses Markdown instead of BBCode, posts are a lot easier to write

These are all great selling points but **he** won’t listen to them. He just takes a look at the UI and what the base experience is like without any plugins and ran by me who’s still learning how to organize and build a Discourse community and thinks it’s a “clusterf-dongle.” (his words, not mine. Again.)

He even looks at the **Latest** page which shows latest posts on the forum and is used as a homepage for a lot of older discourse-powered communities including mine, and sees that UI and thinks “there’s not any categories, this is a mess” (despite the “Categories” button being **right there in the nav** and also the ability to change the default homepage to “Categories” in the admin panel, keeping in mind he’s **community admin** and thus has access to those settings).

My question is if I can’t sell him on the points above, how the hell do I convince him to like Discourse!? Or should I just… ignore the fact he’s a really great friend of mine and kick him off the team? I don’t really know what to do and I’m worried.

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