# Default admin doesn’t receive ‘staff’ or ‘admin’ group memberships at first **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug\ **Created:** [October 4, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/default-admin-doesn-t-receive-staff-or-admin-group-memberships-at-first/240911 "2022-10-04T17:22:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 10
**Author:** ![tobiaseigen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/tobiaseigen/32/539204_2.png) [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/default-admin-doesn-t-receive-staff-or-admin-group-memberships-at-first/240911/10 "2022-10-04T19:10:49Z")
Is this a new issue? Are you suggesting that the new admin should be an admin and moderator? I wonder if this was a design decision long ago or a new change. As regards chat, it seems to me like the admin user should be able to access all chat even if they are not listed in `chat allowed groups`, just like they can access everything else on the site. As it happens, I was looking at the new user experience this week too and noticed that the groups page on a new site is potentially confusing for the first non-staff to show up. It’s bland, only the moderators group shows up on the list, and there are no members of the moderators group. ![Screen Shot 2022-10-04 at 12.06.54 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/e/1/6/e1623242819f6e3bf06aa95964460667c87fc50b.jpeg) --- _[View the full topic](https://meta.discourse.org/t/default-admin-doesn-t-receive-staff-or-admin-group-memberships-at-first/240911)._