# Difference between backup, and backup all files?

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [May 22, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097 "2018-05-22T04:59:50Z")
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### Author: ![ttttt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ttttt/32/97047_2.png) [@ttttt](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ttttt)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/1 "2018-05-22T04:59:50Z")

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I see two option in backup which is the first one include files and the second one doesn’t

So my question is if i gonna move another server which backup should i use?

and does the app.yml, plugins, theme, etc already included in it?

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### Author: ![TheBestPessimist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/thebestpessimist/32/247704_2.png) [@TheBestPessimist](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TheBestPessimist)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2018, 6:52am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/2 "2018-05-22T06:52:54Z")

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afaik

- you have to save `container/app.yml` by hand.
- `include files` option also backups the uploaded files, not only posts. If you don’t “include files” and you didnt save them elsewhere (eg. amazon s3 discourse option), you won’t have “all of the data back”.

Note: this is only my understanding.

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### Author: ![tgxworld](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/tgxworld/32/106117_2.png) [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2018, 7:36am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/3 "2018-05-22T07:36:03Z")

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> [@ttttt](#):
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> So my question is if i gonna move another server which backup should i use?

“does not include files” means that uploads wouldn’t be included in the backup. If you’re moving servers, you’ll want to select the option that include files.

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/4 "2018-05-22T08:19:37Z")

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Hmm yeah the copy here isn’t great @jomaxro maybe we should improve it. Has to be short because it is on a button. Maybe

> Backup with Uploads

Files is kind of a generic word, I guess.

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### Author: ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/5 "2018-05-22T13:53:17Z")

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Current copy is below. Am I correct that I’m simply replacing the word “files” in the second button with “uploads”? I can’t find reference in our translation files to a button that says “Backup with Files”.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/3/2/32e3413f067b4157f90dbce57a6d8cb217f2a87a.png)

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### Author: ![zogstrip](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/zogstrip/32/512781_2.png) [@zogstrip](https://meta.discourse.org/u/zogstrip)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/6 "2018-05-22T15:12:44Z")

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> [@jomaxro](#):
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> Am I correct

Yes, you are 🙂

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### Author: ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/7 "2018-05-22T15:14:34Z")

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This is done:  
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/d86bd483978f81b4ad9e16967dfa8fd677086f15](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/d86bd483978f81b4ad9e16967dfa8fd677086f15)

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [May 22, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/8 "2018-05-22T22:39:00Z")

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Sure that seems good, change “files” with “uploads” as I do think that is clearer.

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### Author: ![jomaxro](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jomaxro/32/126216_2.png) [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [May 24, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/difference-between-backup-and-backup-all-files/88097/9 "2018-05-24T22:00:01Z")

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