# Disallowing "uncategorized" entries still offers uncategorized as default category

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142>\
**Category:** Feature\
**Created:** [2014年七月3日 02:39 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142 "2014-07-03T02:39:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![riking](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/riking/32/170938_2.png) [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)\
**Post date:** [2014年十一月19日 21:55 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142/21 "2014-11-19T21:55:51Z")

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> [@Mittineague](#):
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> Uncategorized category as long as it’s private

Note that having a private Uncategorized may break the site. (This can no longer be done through the UI, the security tab is hidden for Uncategorized.)

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**Author:** ![cpradio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cpradio/32/4970_2.png) [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)\
**Post date:** [2014年十一月19日 22:19 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142/22 "2014-11-19T22:19:11Z")

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Yeah, which makes it an odd choice as a default for mods/staff who have access to it. I’m really close to the point of writing a UserScript that will prevent me from submitting a new topic in the Uncategorized category (I literally never want to create a topic in that category).

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**Author:** ![TechnoBear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/technobear/32/40546_2.png) [@TechnoBear](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TechnoBear)\
**Post date:** [2014年十一月26日 17:04 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142/23 "2014-11-26T17:04:31Z")

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> [@Mittineague](#):
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> Since we use it almost exclusively to create private discussions I see no great concern having an Uncategorized category as long as it’s private.
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> But as @TechnoBear had an incident where the member saw her post, I’m guessing Uncategorized is not so much “private” as it is “unlisted” (i.e. the member followed the gutter link to it)

It isn’t private. Only staff have access to **use** it, and irritatingly, it’s the default setting when you “Reply as linked topic”, but all members can see any post which accidentally ends up there - hence the problem I had with my post being spotted in the two minutes before I changed the category.

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**Author:** ![cpradio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cpradio/32/4970_2.png) [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)\
**Post date:** [2014年十一月26日 20:09 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142/24 "2014-11-26T20:09:53Z")

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@codinghorror, would you be against a PR that would change the default category for Reply as New Topic, or the Create Topic (off the latest page) to “Select a Category” for mods/staff instead of Uncategorized?

To me, this sounds like a win-win for everyone. As right now, defaulting to uncategorized is defaulting to a category you can’t alter the security on, so it is automatically public. That doesn’t make much sense to me.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [2014年十一月27日 00:12 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142/25 "2014-11-27T00:12:20Z")

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The default for “reply as linked topic” should be the same as the current topic, IMO.

I recall us fixing this before so it defaulted to “no category” when there was no category context, not sure what happened. Probably a regression.

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**Author:** ![cpradio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cpradio/32/4970_2.png) [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)\
**Post date:** [2014年十一月27日 02:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142/26 "2014-11-27T02:17:24Z")

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Okay, so a PR that put Select a Category when Create Topic from the Latest page and defaulted to the current Category when using Reply as New Topic would be accepted?

Just making sure I understand what you deem to be appropriate, so I can throw it on a “look into, to see if I’m comfortable making this change” list.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [2015年三月18日 17:35 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/disallowing-uncategorized-entries-still-offers-uncategorized-as-default-category/17142/27 "2015-03-18T17:35:16Z")

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