# Discourse AI Topic Summary šŸ¤– **URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711 **Category:** Plugin **Tags:** ai **Created:** [March 1, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711 "2023-03-01T19:23:17Z") **Posts on this page:** 20 **Page:** 5
### Author: ![ncaming215](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ncaming215/32/205701_2.png) [@ncaming215](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ncaming215) #### Post date: [May 5, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/83 "2024-05-05T14:28:34Z")
The prompt is a button, ā€œSummarize with AIā€, unless Iā€™m missing the obvious here? Also, this is a fantastic plug-in, canā€™t wait to explore. ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 5, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/84 "2024-05-05T14:29:24Z")
The prompts are all shown in the post precisely one back from your first šŸ˜… ---
### Author: ![ncaming215](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ncaming215/32/205701_2.png) [@ncaming215](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ncaming215) #### Post date: [May 5, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/85 "2024-05-05T14:30:34Z")
Rookie error. šŸ«£ This is what I get for moving too fast ā€¦ Iā€™ll give it a whirl and report back. ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 5, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/86 "2024-05-05T14:31:02Z")
Make sure you are using my plugin. It was the first to summarise with AI but is not the official plugin. ---
### Author: ![RGJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/rgj/32/523185_2.png) [@RGJ](https://meta.discourse.org/u/RGJ) #### Post date: [May 11, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/87 "2024-05-11T07:17:38Z")
Bug: Selecting `gpt-4-turbo` results in a 500 error when a post is being made. That might be because of a wrong setup or permissions but a 500 error on every post creation might be a bit harsh. ```plaintext Faraday::BadRequestError (the server responded with status 400) faraday (2.9.0) lib/faraday/response/raise_error.rb:16:in `on_complete' faraday (2.9.0) lib/faraday/middleware.rb:18:in `block in call' faraday (2.9.0) lib/faraday/response.rb:42:in `on_complete' faraday (2.9.0) lib/faraday/middleware.rb:17:in `call' faraday (2.9.0) lib/faraday/rack_builder.rb:152:in `build_response' faraday (2.9.0) lib/faraday/connection.rb:444:in `run_request' faraday (2.9.0) lib/faraday/connection.rb:280:in `post' ruby-openai (7.0.0) lib/openai/http.rb:22:in `json_post' ruby-openai (7.0.0) lib/openai/client.rb:30:in `chat' plugins/discourse-ai-topic-summary/lib/ai_topic_summary/call_bot.rb:15:in `get_response' plugins/discourse-ai-topic-summary/lib/ai_topic_summary/summarise.rb:6:in `retrieve_summary' plugins/discourse-ai-topic-summary/plugin.rb:62:in `block (2 levels) in activate!' lib/discourse_event.rb:12:in `block in trigger' ``` ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 11, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/88 "2024-05-11T07:21:34Z")
Yep, true. It should also probably spawn a job rather than do the work inline, just like Chatbot. Probably should log the detail response if at all possible too. Does it work with `gpt-3.5-turbo`? If so, very likely this is a permissions issue where the admin does not have access to GPT 4 turbo for some reason, but agree it should not result in a failure to post, perhaps just do no summary update and log an error. ---
### Author: ![RGJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/rgj/32/523185_2.png) [@RGJ](https://meta.discourse.org/u/RGJ) #### Post date: [May 11, 2024, 9:44am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/89 "2024-05-11T09:44:53Z")
> [@merefield](#): > > Does it work with `gpt-3.5-turbo`? Yes, itā€™s a permissions issue for sure. ---
### Author: ![ncaming215](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ncaming215/32/205701_2.png) [@ncaming215](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ncaming215) #### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/90 "2024-05-13T20:00:16Z")
![Screenshot 2024-05-13 at 3.57.12 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/5/0/d/50d225d392f7e0f8d60a487836b1d6d1420a5c7e.png) Is tagging based on the summary thatā€™s generated? For example, Iā€™d prefer no summary but have tagging function. And if thatā€™s the case, maybe hide it? Lastly (see screenshot), this thing is ripe for abuse. At the moment it appears even non-logged in users can downvote. ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/91 "2024-05-13T20:18:40Z")
> [@ncaming215](#): > > Is tagging based on the summary thatā€™s generated? Correct. > [@ncaming215](#): > > And if thatā€™s the case, maybe hide it? Sure you could do that with CSS, or might get away with this settting: `ai topic summary rely on sidebar widget instead` and just not use the widget. > [@ncaming215](#): > > Lastly (see screenshot), this thing is ripe for abuse. At the moment it appears even non-logged in users can downvote. No it isnā€™t? Anonymous users are not presented with this interface, nor are they allowed to vote. > > but thanks for the reputation bomb šŸ˜… This plugin is over a year old - I think the community would have caught that one šŸ˜‰ ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/92 "2024-05-13T20:22:45Z")
As with Chatbot, you can now use the latest Open AI model with this plugin: `gpt-4o` ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 17, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/93 "2024-05-17T11:37:19Z")
A couple of BIG improvements here: [https://github.com/merefield/discourse-ai-topic-summary/pull/14](https://github.com/merefield/discourse-ai-topic-summary/pull/14) [https://github.com/merefield/discourse-ai-topic-summary/pull/15?query=1](https://github.com/merefield/discourse-ai-topic-summary/pull/15?query=1) This should make things _much_ more robust, prevent blocking of posting when thereā€™s an AI issue, and give you _much_ more information when things go wrong. @RGJ @Jagster ---
### Author: ![ncaming215](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ncaming215/32/205701_2.png) [@ncaming215](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ncaming215) #### Post date: [May 19, 2024, 1:54pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/94 "2024-05-19T13:54:20Z")
> [@merefield](#): > > but thanks for the reputation bomb šŸ˜… Oh man, I didnā€™t mean to imply that at all. Iā€™m assuming I opened in Incognito, and mustā€™ve had another Incognito window already open w/ a logged in user. This plug-in is incredible, and I wish it could be adopted into core. You do fantastic work, Robert. Again, my apologies. Totally unintentional dig! ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 19, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/95 "2024-05-19T14:27:16Z")
No issues! Thatā€™s for the kind words. ---
### Author: ![ncaming215](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ncaming215/32/205701_2.png) [@ncaming215](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ncaming215) #### Post date: [May 19, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/96 "2024-05-19T22:07:22Z")
Now that Iā€™ve redeemed myself šŸ˜…ā€¦ whatā€™s the difference between ā€œsystem\_taggingā€ and ā€œprompt.tagā€? ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 19, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/97 "2024-05-19T22:13:58Z")
> [@ncaming215](#): > > ā€œsystem\_taggingā€ Is the system prompt (you can edit this if you wish) > [@ncaming215](#): > > ā€œprompt.tagā€? Is the ā€œuserā€ query sent to the Chat Completion that actually does the work. ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 22, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/98 "2024-05-22T13:04:50Z")
btw, Iā€™ve noticed better performance of `gpt-4-turbo` for the tagging task on one of my sites than `gpt-4o`. I cannot explain why and have not had time to investigate. It may relate to the sheer number of tags, but youā€™d expect the newer model to cope with more. YMMV. ---
### Author: ![ncaming215](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ncaming215/32/205701_2.png) [@ncaming215](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ncaming215) #### Post date: [May 22, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/99 "2024-05-22T13:06:47Z")
> [@merefield](#): > > btw, Iā€™ve noticed better performance of `gpt-4-turbo` for the tagging task on one of my sites than `gpt-4o`. I cannot explain why and have not had time to investigate. YMMV. Iā€™ll give it a shot. I tried to upgrade to 4-turbo and users were met with 500 error (Iā€™m hosted by @RGJā€™s Communiteq) so quickly reverted back to 3.5 and it resolved. This was last week, so perhaps something has changed. ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 22, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/100 "2024-05-22T13:07:48Z")
Sounds like the plugin is out of date: > [@Discourse AI Topic Summary robot](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary-automated-summaries-and-smart-tagging/256711/93): > > A couple of BIG improvements here: [https://github.com/merefield/discourse-ai-topic-summary/pull/14](https://github.com/merefield/discourse-ai-topic-summary/pull/14)[https://github.com/merefield/discourse-ai-topic-summary/pull/15?query=1](https://github.com/merefield/discourse-ai-topic-summary/pull/15?query=1) This should make things much more robust, prevent blocking of posting when thereā€™s an AI issue, and give you much more information when things go wrong. @RGJ @Jagster ---
### Author: ![RGJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/rgj/32/523185_2.png) [@RGJ](https://meta.discourse.org/u/RGJ) #### Post date: [May 22, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/101 "2024-05-22T13:10:11Z")
> [@merefield](#): > > Sounds like the plugin is out of date: No - Nate ran into that issue before you updated the plugin - his issue was actually the reason for my bug report. If you believe you have addressed these issues then weā€™ll be updating the plugin on all our applicable instances tomorrow morning. ---
### Author: ![merefield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/merefield/32/176214_2.png) [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield) #### Post date: [May 22, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711/102 "2024-05-22T13:17:55Z")
You not ā€œlikingā€ the fix ( šŸ˜¢ ) suggested no update had take place. šŸ˜‰ [Previous page](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711.md?page=4) [Next page](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-ai-topic-summary/256711.md?page=6)