# Discourse Basic Editor

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-basic-editor/159431
**Category:** Plugin
**Tags:** broken
**Created:** [July 31, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-basic-editor/159431 "2020-07-31T16:00:55Z")
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### Author: ![spirobel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/spirobel/32/170908_2.png) [@spirobel](https://meta.discourse.org/u/spirobel)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-basic-editor/159431/68 "2021-12-30T14:58:43Z")

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> [@ewan](#):
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> I’ve been using non react frameworks in production for over a decade from small projects to large ones, form green field to legacy ones.

The thing is: if someone is starting out now or is still early in their career they will learn and focus on react. Focusing on a technology is like making a bet and betting a career on anything that is not react right now in the frontend is a bad choice. The only legitimate alternative might be vue, but it is definitely not ember.  
I would say the number of people with a career focused on ember has probably peaked a while ago.

> [@oshyan](#):
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> I hope your experience is not the norm,

do you see a huge influx of people wanting to learn ember and the discourse codebase?  
I don’t. Its a sign that this is legacy software. That has reached the peak of its potential. There is no huge influx of people wanting to use it or work on it. Even after the increase in work from home and use of remote collaboration software. People rather use Zoom and discord.

> [@merefield](#):
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> The approaches of self-reliant reverse engineering (in lieu of detailed documentation) you develop when doing that will benefit you on completely different domains.

thats what I mean by developer experience.

> [@merefield](#):
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> The main issue I see here is the conflict between open source and funding. CDCK themselves proved that building a sustainable business around open source is achievable. We have to get quite sophisticated in order to make it pay and deliver value.

This is a good point. Discourse is mostly a product: a self hosted community/support forum for a slightly nerdy audience. It will never be much more than that because that is where its funding is coming from. So most decisions will be made to appease this audience.  
To bring this back on topic. Replacing the markdown composer means making this software less nerdy. So it means a division from the audience it is geared towards.  
It is not easy to get out of this local minimum.

> [@Revert search to old live search pattern](https://meta.discourse.org/t/revert-search-to-old-live-search-pattern/205845/23):
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> The issue is: potential users and potential customers cant complain.

so once a piece of software has found its audience a reflexive feedback loop starts that leads to more features that appease this audience, while the usability for other groups is neglected more and more.

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