# Display MESSAGES rather than MEMBERS by default for groups **URL:** \ **Category:** UX\ **Created:** [December 4, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/display-messages-rather-than-members-by-default-for-groups/135052 "2019-12-04T11:53:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![davidleonalex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58f4c7/32.png) [@davidleonalex](https://meta.discourse.org/u/davidleonalex)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/display-messages-rather-than-members-by-default-for-groups/135052/3 "2019-12-04T14:12:00Z")
OK thanks for your help. As I see it, currently in the default discourse installation, users of the platform can create groups which appear in the ‘Groups’ area. Users can join these groups and become members of the groups they join. Once a group has been created, In the group page there’s a button next to the ‘JOIN’ button called ‘MESSAGE’. Clicking this ‘MESSAGE’ button creates what appears to me to create a new topic in the MESSAGES area of the group which members of the group can reply to, just like a normal topic in a category. This UX makes total sense from a user perspective. there is a window for the group with a title, header, information about the group, with areas within that window for displaying a list of it’s members and for messages and topics of interest to the members of the group. I think what you are saying that this ISN’T the way it’s designed to be used? That topics related to that group shouldn’t be in the group page but be posted by members of that group in a separate, but linked (by permissions) category.. and that the UX (clickable) link between a group and it’s associated discussion categories can be established by a modification to the theme? Is that right? So how do users who discover and join a new group know how to easily find the categories and discussions associated with the group they just joined. Using the modification to the theme? Can you point me to a particular theme component I should be looking for? If a user wants to create a new group then I’m assuming they need to also create a new category and then set permissions of that category to groups members, so to do all that they would need be an admin. I feel I must be missing something. This seems messy and fiddly to me. Why not just encapsulate the whole group UX, including the discussions between it’s members, within the same group area? The message button in the group window seems to do this for me as it is currently, but I just wish that on entering the group window that the messages would be shown by default.. --- _[View the full topic](https://meta.discourse.org/t/display-messages-rather-than-members-by-default-for-groups/135052)._