# EdgeHTML Support
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601
**Category:** Development
**Created:** [January 14, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601 "2020-01-14T20:23:37Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@david](https://meta.discourse.org/u/david)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/1 "2020-01-14T20:23:37Z")
(Split from [Discourse is ending support for Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) on June 1, 2020](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-is-ending-support-for-internet-explorer-11-ie11-on-june-1-2020/137984))
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2020, 11:43pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/4 "2020-01-07T23:43:21Z")
Will anything happen to [EdgeHTML](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdgeHTML)? It appears that Microsoft will be treating it similar to Internet Explorer 11 (only maintenance updates and such).
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/5 "2020-01-08T00:24:50Z")
Not true. All Edge will magically convert to Chromium Edge. There’s nothing to do there.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/6 "2020-01-08T00:25:48Z")
I thought that it’ll be received VIA an optional Windows update? What about users using older versions of Windows 10? Will their Edge application and shortcuts be replaced?
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### Author:  [@Johani](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Johani)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/7 "2020-01-08T00:36:29Z")
> [@Justin\_Vega](#):
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> I thought that it’ll be received VIA an optional Windows update?
No it’s not optional, at least in the context of this discussion. It will be a part of your regular Windows updates and you don’t have to opt-in to anything.
> [@Justin\_Vega](#):
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> What about users using older versions of Windows 10?
They would either need to update their Windows versions or use a different browser.
> [@Justin\_Vega](#):
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> Will their Edge application and shortcuts be replaced?
That’s a question for Microsoft.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 10, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/8 "2020-01-10T21:22:04Z")
> [@Johani](#):
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> That’s a question for Microsoft.
I sent an email their way and they said no, so it’s likely that some people will still be using EdgeHTML.
> [@Discourse is ending support for Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) on June 1, 2020](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-is-ending-support-for-internet-explorer-11-ie11-on-june-1-2020/137984/3):
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> It appears that Microsoft will be treating it similar to Internet Explorer 11 (only maintenance updates and such).
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### Author:  [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [January 10, 2020, 9:57pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/9 "2020-01-10T21:57:03Z")
> [@Justin\_Vega](#):
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> I sent an email their way and they said no, so it’s likely that some people will still be using EdgeHTML.
We won’t support old versions of Edge, only the latest.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/10 "2020-01-11T14:56:51Z")
> [@Falco](#):
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> We won’t support old versions of Edge, only the latest.
Would an announcement (or some sort of notice) be justified then?
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/11 "2020-01-11T23:23:43Z")
You are reading it, so I think we’re done here…
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/12 "2020-01-11T23:37:24Z")
There is no mention of EdgeHTML or the old Microsoft Edge anywhere in the announcement.
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### Author:  [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/13 "2020-01-12T03:16:48Z")
The “latest version of the browser” policy has been standing for a while and doesn’t seem worth reiterating in the original post here, as mentioning it would cause a lot of confusion.
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/14 "2020-01-12T04:20:26Z")
Agreed. For users who aren’t technical, they’ll be using the default browser on Windows, MS Edge. When the new Edge is released and downloaded via Windows Update, they’ll be switched to the new default. Those users will be good.
For anyone who knows enough to actively switch their default browser, I trust they can switch again. If they’re confused, they’ll end up here.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/15 "2020-01-12T16:17:16Z")
> [@riking](#):
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> The “latest version of the browser” policy has been standing for a while and doesn’t seem worth reiterating in the original post here, as mentioning it would cause a lot of confusion.
In that case, a browser version like Chrome 78 is unsupported?
> [@Discourse is ending support for Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) on June 1, 2020](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-is-ending-support-for-internet-explorer-11-ie11-on-june-1-2020/137984/19):
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> When the new Edge is released and downloaded via Windows Update, they’ll be switched to the new default. Those users will be good.
Wouldn’t the update have to be manually installed if it’s through Windows Update?
> [@Discourse is ending support for Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) on June 1, 2020](https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-is-ending-support-for-internet-explorer-11-ie11-on-june-1-2020/137984/19):
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> Agreed. For users who aren’t technical, they’ll be using the default browser on Windows, MS Edge.
_Only_ users who aren’t technical?
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/16 "2020-01-12T17:57:11Z")
> [@Justin\_Vega](#):
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> In that case, a browser version like Chrome 78 is unsupported?
Technically, yes. If someone reports an issue, and we can’t reproduce it on the latest browser, our next step for the user would be “update your browser”. It’s not worth our time “fixing” an issue that was a bug with the browser already fixed.
> [@Justin\_Vega](#):
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> Wouldn’t the update have to be manually installed if it’s through Windows Update?
Microsoft isn’t exactly being forthcoming about the Chromium Edge rollout plan, but last I heard it will be delivered through Windows Update, and thus will be downloaded/installed automatically for users just like any other update.
> [@Justin\_Vega](#):
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> _Only_ users who aren’t technical?
No, not only. But the non-technical users are the ones that I’d be concerned about with this change. I’m not worried about technical users updating their browsers, or knowing how to research the issue, land on this topic, and solve the issue that way.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/17 "2020-01-14T02:36:22Z")
It appears that the old Microsoft Edge will still exist, but it’ll be fairly hidden.
Watch the following video for more information.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-AeAtECL9Q&t=148)
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### Author:  [@jomaxro](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jomaxro)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2020, 3:02am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/18 "2020-01-14T03:02:00Z")
That video isn’t from Microsoft though, and they don’t cite any sources. Until Microsoft says more in a press release, FAQ, knowledge base topic, or other official source, everything is hearsay and/or speculation. Trust me, if/when we learn more, we’ll update this topic to be as specific as possible.
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### Author:  [@david](https://meta.discourse.org/u/david)
#### Post date: [January 14, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/19 "2020-01-14T20:30:09Z")
Microsoft have updated their documentation on this, to clarify the auto-update scenarios
[https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-blocker-toolkit](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-blocker-toolkit)
The update will be automatically applied to home and unmanaged business editions. It will be optional on managed business and enterprise systems. I guess that lines up with most windows updates 🤷♂️
We will have to see what usage statistics look like in a few months.
> [@](#):
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> - Organizations with updates managed through Windows Update for Business (WUfB) will not automatically receive this update and do not need to deploy the blocker toolkit.
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> - Organizations with environments managed with an update management solution such as Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) or System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) do not have to deploy the Blocker Toolkit. They can use those products to fully manage deployment of updates released through Windows Update and Microsoft Update, including Microsoft Edge (Chromium-based), within their environment.
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> - This update is a stand-alone update (not part of the monthly cumulative update) to give Enterprise customers flexibility and maximum control over deploying this update.
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/20 "2020-01-15T00:33:40Z")
> [@jomaxro](#):
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> That video isn’t from Microsoft though, and they don’t cite any sources.
I’ve asked him to cite a course. I will update you when I get a response.
> [@jomaxro](#):
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> Until Microsoft says more in a press release, FAQ, knowledge base topic, or other official source, everything is hearsay and/or speculation. Trust me, if/when we learn more, we’ll update this topic to be as specific as possible.
> [@david](#):
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> Microsoft have updated their documentation on this, to clarify the auto-update scenarios
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> [docs.microsoft.com](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-blocker-toolkit)
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> ### [Blocker Toolkit to disable automatic delivery of Microsoft Edge](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/microsoft-edge-blocker-toolkit)
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> Blocker Toolkit to disable automatic delivery of Microsoft Edge
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> The update will be automatically applied to home and unmanaged business editions. It will be optional on managed business and enterprise systems. I guess that lines up with most windows updates 🤷♂️
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> We will have to see what usage statistics look like in a few months.
I ~~googled~~ binged it and there are tons of articles, news pages, and official bits of information from Microsoft themselves. You just have to spend a bit of time piecing _all_ of the information together so you can have a better understanding of everything (information that has come out since Microsoft announced Chromium Edge).
Microsoft summed up everything fairly well in an announcement video they released back in May.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/dKmzyj-ovkg?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque
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### Author:  [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/21 "2020-01-15T17:46:42Z")
New Edge is live 🎉
> **[New year, new browser – The new Microsoft Edge is out of preview and now...](https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2020/01/15/new-year-new-browser-the-new-microsoft-edge-is-out-of-preview-and-now-available-for-download/)**
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> A little over a year ago, we announced our intention to rebuild Microsoft Edge on the Chromium open source project with the goals of delivering better compatibility for everyone, less fragmentation for web developers, and a partnership with the...
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### Author:  [@Justin\_Vega](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Justin_Vega)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601/22 "2020-01-16T02:11:17Z")
Take a look at this.
> **[What is Microsoft Edge Legacy? | Microsoft Support](https://support.microsoft.com/en-US/edge/what-is-microsoft-edge-legacy)**
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> An explanation of the legacy version of the Microsoft Edge browser.
Oh, and the web page looks awesome! 😄
I’d also recommend taking a look at this too.
> **[Upgrading to the new Microsoft Edge](https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2020/01/15/upgrading-new-microsoft-edge-79-chromium/)**
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> The new Microsoft Edge is now out of preview and available for download, with today’s release of our first Stable channel build (Microsoft Edge 79 stable). You can download the new Microsoft Edge today at microsoft.com/edge. In this post, we’ll walk...
From the looks of it, the release has gone very well. A lot of people on social media are stoked.
[Next page](https://meta.discourse.org/t/edgehtml-support/138601.md?page=2)