# Email connection using port 25, rather than default 587

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/email-connection-using-port-25-rather-than-default-587/239259>\
**Category:** Bug\
**Created:** [September 17, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/email-connection-using-port-25-rather-than-default-587/239259 "2022-09-17T06:47:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![pfaffman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/pfaffman/32/120154_2.png) [@pfaffman](https://meta.discourse.org/u/pfaffman)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/email-connection-using-port-25-rather-than-default-587/239259/9 "2022-09-18T22:23:39Z")

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> [@Falco](#):
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> as it looks like `./discourse-setup` assumes that the values on the sample file are Discourse defaults?

It does. It trusts the templates rather than parsing the configuration file.

`discourse-setup` **always** sets a value (it won’t leave the line commented out); those who use `discourse-setup` will **never** have a problem with the default SMTP port being “wrong”; that’s why this seems the be the first time this has come up. (And it would seem that even before `discourse-setup` existed, no one decided to leave the port commented out and expect the default to be 587; it just makes more sense to set the port rather than hoping that the default works). Changing it to 25 in `standalone.yml` and `web_only.yml` will encourage people who do use `discourse-setup` to use port 25, which will likely mean that a bunch of people will have to type 587 rather than just hitting enter, and some others, who don’t know what a port is, will blindly accept the default and probably have problems figuring that out. I think that there will be more people in the set than those who know how to edit a text file and choose leave the SMTP port commented out rather than entering the value that they actually want.

The only time this “bug” can occur is if someone edits `standalone.yml` by hand and chooses to leave the SMTP port commented out rather than providing a value. Whether the templates are wrong or the actual default is wrong is unclear.

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