# Ember Object Discrepancy between Initial Page-Load and Hard-Refresh

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/ember-object-discrepancy-between-initial-page-load-and-hard-refresh/45394>\
**Category:** Development\
**Created:** [2016年六月7日 18:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ember-object-discrepancy-between-initial-page-load-and-hard-refresh/45394 "2016-06-07T18:17:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![ivanrlio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ivanrlio/32/48497_2.png) [@ivanrlio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ivanrlio)\
**Post date:** [2016年六月7日 18:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ember-object-discrepancy-between-initial-page-load-and-hard-refresh/45394/1 "2016-06-07T18:17:23Z")

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On our site we’re generating a sidebar that will contain information about the topic such as `posters`, `suggested discussions` etc. An issue that I’ve noticed, at least for the attribute `posters`, is that upon initial page-load, it is present on the ember object. Upon hard-refreshing however, this attribute disappears and thus renders the sidebar rather pointless. Below are the screenshots of these instances.

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**Page-load Ember Object:**  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/optimized/3X/5/d/5dd1e51485c12fb9cf21de5f34644410df222c60_2_690x18.png)

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/d/7/d7947fb751d1f1736a11b84720921c184eba7c1d.png)

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/5/9/597af6814f5cf34a975062529053577c75ec2923.png)

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**Hard-refresh Ember Object:**  
 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/optimized/3X/4/1/41d8b9ffb04128c5e764f8d68e4a9be995ddf9b5_2_690x18.png)

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/3/6/363dd1850ac5bd7d4eede2cdb2ced6b621c5b526.png)

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/8/b/8bd59e72ed3eac8cb73cbbf8a531d4451b73641a.png)

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Would anyone be able to explain why this is occurring? Thanks

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**Author:** ![sam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/sam/32/102149_2.png) [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)\
**Post date:** [2016年六月8日 01:18 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/ember-object-discrepancy-between-initial-page-load-and-hard-refresh/45394/2 "2016-06-08T01:18:45Z")

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Most likely a discrepancy in the serializer/cache, first time around it is probably coming from the topic list. I bet that if you just have a link to a topic in a topic and visit via that it is empty as well.

Fixing this would add a query to topic serialization which is not super desired for information we never surface… open to allowing the plugin to opt-in for more information via the serializer.