# Emojis update

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624
**Category:** Announcements
**Tags:** emoji
**Created:** [March 4, 2025, 10:36am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624 "2025-03-04T10:36:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![j.jaffeux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/j.jaffeux/32/60297_2.png) [@j.jaffeux](https://meta.discourse.org/u/j.jaffeux)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 10:36am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/1 "2025-03-04T10:36:43Z")

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For licensing reasons, we had to change the emoji sets. The following existing sets have been migrated automatically to a new set:

- apple → twemoji
- facebook\_messenger → unicode
- google → noto
- google\_classic → noto
- win10 → fluentui
- emoji\_one → twemoji
- twitter → twemoji

On top of [fluent ui](https://github.com/microsoft/fluentui-emoji), [noto](https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Color+Emoji), [twemoji](https://github.com/jdecked/twemoji), and [unicode](https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html), we also added the [openmoji](https://openmoji.org/) set.

Admins can change the set at `/admin/config/emoji/settings?filter=emoji_set`

If there’s an existing open-source set you would like to see available in Discourse, please let us know.

We understand that changing emojis can be a very visible change, but we didn’t have any other way around it. We prefer to lay a good foundation for the future by only supporting fully open-source sets.

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### Author: ![NateDhaliwal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/natedhaliwal/32/313494_2.png) [@NateDhaliwal](https://meta.discourse.org/u/NateDhaliwal)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 10:47am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/2 "2025-03-04T10:47:43Z")

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Which one impacts Meta, out of curiosity?

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### Author: ![j.jaffeux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/j.jaffeux/32/60297_2.png) [@j.jaffeux](https://meta.discourse.org/u/j.jaffeux)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 12:08pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/3 "2025-03-04T12:08:56Z")

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Meta is using twemoji now and was using twitter before.

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### Author: ![Teafh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/teafh/32/269081_2.png) [@Teafh](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Teafh)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/4 "2025-03-04T14:18:31Z")

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> [@j.jaffeux](#):
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> google → noto

Noto Emoji or Noto Color Emoji?

> **[Noto Emoji - Google Fonts](https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Emoji)**
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> Noto Emoji is an open source font that has you covered for all your emoji needs, including support for the latest Unicode emoji specification. It has multiple w

> **[Noto Color Emoji - Google Fonts](https://fonts.google.com/noto/specimen/Noto+Color+Emoji)**
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> Noto Color Emoji is an open source font that has you covered for all your emoji needs, including support for the latest Unicode emoji specification. It features

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### Author: ![j.jaffeux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/j.jaffeux/32/60297_2.png) [@j.jaffeux](https://meta.discourse.org/u/j.jaffeux)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/5 "2025-03-04T14:19:52Z")

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Yes it’s color, my link is incorrect indeed.

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### Author: ![Shauny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/shauny/32/362012_2.png) [@Shauny](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Shauny)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/6 "2025-03-04T14:47:56Z")

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Will these affect our self hosted sites?

Why do we need to use images for emoji anyway, can’t we just use the symbols? I’d prefer if they showed in everyone’s native style on their OS.

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### Author: ![Canapin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/canapin/32/119591_2.png) [@Canapin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Canapin)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/7 "2025-03-04T15:27:16Z")

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> [@j.jaffeux](#):
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> The following existing sets have been migrated automatically to a new set:

Do we need to do anything? The selector in the settings looks like this on my instance:

 ![A Twitter search dropdown lists various deprecated emoji sets, including Apple/International, Facebook Messenger (Standard), Fluent Emoji, Google (Noto Emoji), and Google Classic (Noto Emoji), with Twemoji as the current standard emoji set. (Captioned by AI)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/4/a/7/4a7c15738afbeb6deaac4d683a70560836ff6288.png)

Or is it just so admins are aware of this change, and the deprecated options will vanish without any consequences?

> [@Shauny](#):
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> Why do we need to use images for emoji anyway, can’t we just use the symbols?

You can entirely disable emojis from the admin settings, but it won’t convert common text smilies such as `:)` as emojis.  
Unicode emojis won’t be converted as images.  
The emoji selector will be absent from the composer, which is not a loss on mobiles since all mobile keyboards have an emoji shortcut, but I think most people don’t know how to write emojis on a computer.

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Also, cross-linking this as it’s also related to a future emoji set change:

> [@Emojis, would it be prudent for Discourse to Fork Twemoji?](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-would-it-be-prudent-for-discourse-to-fork-twemoji/272853/7):
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> Would be worth changing the default for face with bags under eyes alone!!! @lindsey any thoughts here? I guess there are 2 parts here: should we add the set here (probably yes) should we swap to it (probably yes)

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### Author: ![Shauny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/shauny/32/362012_2.png) [@Shauny](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Shauny)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/8 "2025-03-04T15:40:35Z")

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> [@Canapin](#):
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> The emoji selector will be absent from the composer,

We have some custom emojis though.

Can’t we do this?:

1. Don’t convert emojis if someone writes the actual Unicode for an emoji
2. Still have the emoji picker for custom / desktop ease of use

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### Author: ![j.jaffeux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/j.jaffeux/32/60297_2.png) [@j.jaffeux](https://meta.discourse.org/u/j.jaffeux)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/9 "2025-03-04T16:42:43Z")

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> [@Shauny](#):
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> Why do we need to use images for emoji anyway, can’t we just use the symbols? I’d prefer if they showed in everyone’s native style on their OS.

It’s not that simple for two reasons:

- different platforms support new released emojis at different speed, so you could have user A on platform 1, creating a post using an emoji available on this platform, which will then be seen by user B on platform 2 which doesn’t support yet the latest emojis released few weeks ago =\> tofu box (in the world of fonts, “tofu” is a blank rectangular box that appears when a character cannot be displayed).
- custom emojis. Discourse supports custom emojis which are not mapped to a character and are just images.

> [@Canapin](#):
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> Do we need to do anything?

No unless you want to change it

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### Author: ![darkpixlz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/darkpixlz/32/549896_2.png) [@darkpixlz](https://meta.discourse.org/u/darkpixlz)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/10 "2025-03-04T16:48:42Z")

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I’d like to see Twemoji use Discord’s dialect of it, it had a lot of improvements to faces like the pleading one.

[https://github.com/discord/twemoji](https://github.com/discord/twemoji)

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### Author: ![ThunderThighs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/thunderthighs/32/492278_2.png) [@ThunderThighs](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ThunderThighs)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/11 "2025-03-04T17:34:34Z")

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Oooof, really lost some nice emojis. The old one had character - people that looked like people. My users find these new ones blurry for some reason.

question: I have “Standard” on my menu of fonts. Is that the same as Noto?

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### Author: ![supermathie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/supermathie/32/507518_2.png) [@supermathie](https://meta.discourse.org/u/supermathie)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/12 "2025-03-04T17:36:07Z")

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> [@Emojis, would it be prudent for Discourse to Fork Twemoji?](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-would-it-be-prudent-for-discourse-to-fork-twemoji/272853/4):
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> [twitter] have stopped, the last update [on the repo](https://github.com/twitter/twemoji) is 3 years old.

> [@darkpixlz](#):
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> Discord’s dialect

… is actually [GitHub - jdecked/twemoji: Emoji for everyone. · GitHub](https://github.com/jdecked/twemoji) which we are already tracking

> [@ThunderThighs](#):
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> users find these new ones blurry

Can you point to specific examples?

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### Author: ![j.jaffeux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/j.jaffeux/32/60297_2.png) [@j.jaffeux](https://meta.discourse.org/u/j.jaffeux)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/13 "2025-03-04T17:42:21Z")

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> [@ThunderThighs](#):
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> question: I have “Standard” on my menu of fonts. Is that the same as Noto?

No, standard is the unicode base representation, they also call it “sample”. I would recommend you try twemoji maybe? Or maybe fluent ui, or noto. Probably all good choices for more character.

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### Author: ![ThunderThighs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/thunderthighs/32/492278_2.png) [@ThunderThighs](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ThunderThighs)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/14 "2025-03-04T17:57:03Z")

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> [@supermathie](#):
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> Can you point to specific examples?

I just switched over to Fluent. Reactions are tiny and blurry-ish.

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/f/a/9/fa96dffe73cd4de81b110f10c9bbc6322696ce49.png)

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### Author: ![ThunderThighs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/thunderthighs/32/492278_2.png) [@ThunderThighs](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ThunderThighs)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/15 "2025-03-04T18:01:25Z")

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> [@supermathie](#):
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> Can you point to specific examples?

sent you a message but might as well share here. Search for “clear” to see feedback.

The screen shots were made by me changing the emoji set and taking screen shots from the composer window.

> **[Our Emojis - Noto Emoji is the new set](https://forums.woot.com/t/our-emojis-noto-emoji-is-the-new-set/1965949)**
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> They’ve updated our emoji set and it’s kinda blah. We have these emoji sets to choose from: Fluent Emoji Noto Emoji OpenMoji Twemoji Standard (sample set) Samples are below. Pick your fav. # Favorite Emoji Set? (Thursday's Poll) poll ...

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### Author: ![supermathie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/supermathie/32/507518_2.png) [@supermathie](https://meta.discourse.org/u/supermathie)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/16 "2025-03-04T18:10:58Z")

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> [@ThunderThighs](#):
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> The screen shots were made by me changing the emoji set and taking screen shots from the composer window.
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> [Our Emojis - Noto Emoji is the new set - Information Desk - Woot](https://forums.woot.com/t/our-emojis-vote-for-your-favorite-set/1965949)

This won’t give very clear results for people to compare… maybe someone can whip up a webpage that compares our sets.

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### Author: ![supermathie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/supermathie/32/507518_2.png) [@supermathie](https://meta.discourse.org/u/supermathie)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/17 "2025-03-04T18:35:24Z")

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> [@supermathie](#):
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> maybe someone

you know how it goes…

 ![The image displays a collection of emoticons from different sets across various styles and themes. (Captioned by AI)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/0/3/a/03a36db8a8e165d2635aff3ccddf932993e473d9.jpeg)

I picked a sample and made [this page](https://www.supermathie.net/~michael/emoji.html) ([source](https://www.supermathie.net/~michael/emoji.html.erb))

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### Author: ![j.jaffeux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/j.jaffeux/32/60297_2.png) [@j.jaffeux](https://meta.discourse.org/u/j.jaffeux)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/18 "2025-03-04T18:41:38Z")

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I will look at this in the next 24 hours, maybe theres something wrong here. The only one expected to be smaller is the openmoji set, due to some specific choice they made.

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### Author: ![Shauny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/shauny/32/362012_2.png) [@Shauny](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Shauny)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/19 "2025-03-04T21:43:05Z")

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> [@j.jaffeux](#):
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> different platforms support new released emojis at different speed

This doesn’t bother me.

> [@j.jaffeux](#):
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> custom emojis.

Yes, I think we could carry on using :this\_style: for custom emoji but just allow the unicode without changes for standard emoji?

Why not?

I absolutely detest all of those open source options. I just want the Apple ones on my Apple device, like I’d see in Messages and in social networks.

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### Author: ![jabeler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jabeler/32/492320_2.png) [@jabeler](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jabeler)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emojis-update/355624/20 "2025-03-04T22:12:32Z")

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Also voicing my support for a native emoji option so we can get Apple emojis back.

Thanks for all that you guys do.

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