# End-to-end Encryption for Chat

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/end-to-end-encryption-for-chat/226932>\
**Category:** Feature\
**Tags:** chat\
**Created:** [May 13, 2022, 6:50am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/end-to-end-encryption-for-chat/226932 "2022-05-13T06:50:24Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/end-to-end-encryption-for-chat/226932/18 "2023-11-22T18:36:45Z")

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If it were just to hide chats from other users, then yes I think the group/trust permissions work well.

For me, it’s more about hiding the chats from the admins/server. With this in mind, I don’t think the group/trust permissions will work as the chats will still be plain-text on the server.

Why does this matter? In my context, if Alice is talking with Bob about deep emotional issues in her life in a personal chat, I as the admin don’t want to have the ability to snoop on such a conversation and want Alice and Bob to both feel safe that I’m not snooping. Same reason I prefer Whatsapp or Signal and really don’t like IG or FB messenger, as I prefer knowing (strongly believing) that the admins can’t just read everything I type.

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