# Everyone permissions + "See" permissions

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/everyone-permissions-see-permissions/101613>\
**Category:** Support\
**Created:** [November 8, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/everyone-permissions-see-permissions/101613 "2018-11-08T15:55:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![hellekin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/hellekin/32/51636_2.png) [@hellekin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/hellekin)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/everyone-permissions-see-permissions/101613/3 "2018-11-08T16:22:09Z")

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Since @robmc mentioned this topic in [Everyone permissions + "See" permissions - #2 by robmc](https://meta.discourse.org/t/everyone-permissions-see-permissions/101613/2), let me add a resource to this discussion from [Caucus groups](http://caucuscare.com/CMLREF/c5groups.html):

The standard access levels are:

| **Keyword** | **Value** | | **Description** |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| organizer | 40 | | Full management powers for whatever the group is used in |
| instructor | 30 | | (limited organizer powers) |
| include | 20 | | |
| readonly | 10 | | |
| exclude | 0 | | No access |
| inherit | -1 | | Inherit actual access level from subgroup |

So that means you can actually put groups in groups, and exclude groups from certain things, creating a complex – or complicated – way to look at things. IMO this is a bit too fancy, and group exclusion should be enough: THIS permissions if IN GROUP X BUT NOT IN GROUP Y.

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