# FATAL: קובץ הנעילה "postmaster.pid" ריק

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/fatal-lock-file-postmaster-pid-is-empty/240895>\
**Category:** Self-hosting\
**Created:** [4 באוקטובר,‏ 2022,‏ 2:52pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/fatal-lock-file-postmaster-pid-is-empty/240895 "2022-10-04T14:52:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [21 בנובמבר,‏ 2022,‏ 1:34am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/fatal-lock-file-postmaster-pid-is-empty/240895/9 "2022-11-21T01:34:26Z")

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There is not enough data here to debug.

This is happening cause the build process thinks PG is already running so maybe something about the PG upgrade process is astray. Can you include full logs of launcher (scrubbing out passwords) so we can see what is up.

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