# Give /groups and /tags some love!
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783
**Category:** UX
**Created:** [4월 8, 2019, 6:02오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783 "2019-04-08T18:02:53Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@Krischan](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Krischan)
#### Post date: [4월 8, 2019, 6:02오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/1 "2019-04-08T18:02:53Z")
Discourse groups are great, but their [home is still quite puritan](https://meta.discourse.org/groups) - and their presentation inconsistent. This is the way the group metadata are shown on /groups:
The group ID is the most prominent element, even though there’s a nice “phenotype” available.
On the group page itself it’s the other way round:
I wonder why the ID is shown at all - instead of just showing the full name and the title that the members get?
What I would also love to see here is an editable banner / descriptive text that briefly explains what groups are and why the users should join them.
Same goes for /tags: [Nice minimal layout](https://meta.discourse.org/tags), but wouldn’t this be good place to briefly explain what you can do with tags, eg. that you can watch, track or mute them individually? And maybe you could add the ⚪ to change the watch settings for each tag on the spot?
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [4월 9, 2019, 2:17오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/2 "2019-04-09T02:17:19Z")
All good ideas, we need to improve in this area @sam
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [4월 9, 2019, 2:47오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/3 "2019-04-09T02:47:55Z")
We have an about group section, so all the data is already here for groups:
@awesomerobot any mockups of how you would see the groups page look when about group exists? What if about group is super long do we just render it all on the directory?
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### Author:  [@awesomerobot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/awesomerobot)
#### Post date: [4월 9, 2019, 4:11오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/4 "2019-04-09T04:11:33Z")
Right, the public group listing feels very much like an admin view at the moment (which I think was the origin?)
Most of the page is consumed by a few table columns that don’t need the space they get.
This is a rough mock-up, but with a card-style layout you can fit the same number of groups in the same amount of space as the table, and get the bonus of space for a description (we’d just need to truncate long descriptions and save the long one for the individual group page).
I think we’d also want to enable descriptions for automatic groups here, because then you could have a really nice public group directory and have a good understanding of what all the groups are without specifically navigating to any individual group.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [4월 9, 2019, 5:30오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/5 "2019-04-09T05:30:11Z")
This looks great @maja can you work with @awesomerobot’s guidance to do the revamp?
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### Author:  [@awesomerobot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/awesomerobot)
#### Post date: [4월 18, 2019, 4:40오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/11 "2019-04-18T16:40:30Z")
The update to groups pages is now live, I feel like having the space for descriptions here is much more useful (thanks for the suggestion @Krischan )!
I’m going to make a few more adjustments (in retrospect group names probably don’t need to be truncated)
I also think we should add default descriptions for our automatic groups that ship with Discourse (admins, moderators, and trust levels)
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### Author:  [@bts](https://meta.discourse.org/u/bts)
#### Post date: [4월 18, 2019, 5:13오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/12 "2019-04-18T17:13:59Z")
Looks great! Small suggestion, could be nice to make title case consistent. Feels a bit off to have some groups title case, but `translators` and `moderators` lower case. Maybe b/c the defaults have only `name` but not `full name` set? Default descriptions sounds like a good idea too!
(And perhaps enforce a `full name` max length? Truncation aside the super long sentence case name of `Forum moderators who migrated to Discourse from other platforms` feels kinda out of place anyway.)
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### Author:  [@awesomerobot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/awesomerobot)
#### Post date: [4월 18, 2019, 6:19오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/13 "2019-04-18T18:19:26Z")
I think that lack of consistency is mostly our fault when naming groups here on Meta… though our automatic groups default to lowercase and since we don’t have a full name field for those someone has to edit the text in `admin > customize > text content` (or apply case with CSS).
I don’t want to force sentence or title case with CSS by default because inevitably someone complains that we’re forcing case with CSS instead of using text as entered.
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### Author:  [@bts](https://meta.discourse.org/u/bts)
#### Post date: [4월 18, 2019, 6:37오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/14 "2019-04-18T18:37:07Z")
Gotcha that makes sense! Maybe adding full name for the automatic groups (defaulting to title case) would be enough.
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### Author:  [@Krischan](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Krischan)
#### Post date: [4월 19, 2019, 9:29오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/15 "2019-04-19T21:29:23Z")
Hi Kris,
encountered a strange behaviour here: If member title = Full/nice name then the headline of the groups in the boxes is the ID instead of the full/nice name. Otherwise great!
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### Author:  [@Krischan](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Krischan)
#### Post date: [4월 26, 2019, 7:46오후 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/16 "2019-04-26T19:46:01Z")
Hi @awesomerobot,
if I’m not mistaken, the number of groups shown on /g is limited to 30. Any chance to increase this limit? My community will rely heavily on groups, but some won’t be found the way it is now.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [4월 29, 2019, 2:47오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/18 "2019-04-29T02:47:57Z")
Yeah this is broken (you can see the defer loading broken on meta)
@tgxworld can you raise the number to a multiple of 4 and 3 (maybe 48 for now) and correct the defer loading?
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### Author:  [@tgxworld](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tgxworld)
#### Post date: [4월 30, 2019, 2:36오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/20 "2019-04-30T02:36:00Z")
Fixed in
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/dca7f8ecf23286f72f8347509eb4e1a2464e02ae](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/dca7f8ecf23286f72f8347509eb4e1a2464e02ae)
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### Author:  [@awesomerobot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/awesomerobot)
#### Post date: [9월 3, 2020, 2:00오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/26 "2020-09-03T02:00:15Z")
미래의 ❤ 를 위한 간단한 아이디어: 그룹 배경화면은 어떨까요?
이미지가 선택되지 않은 경우, 사용자 프로필에서처럼 자동으로 생성된 색상과 글자를 가져오는 건 어떨까요. 시각적 요소를 조금 더 추가하면 그룹의 고유한 정체성을 더 잘 살릴 수 있을 것 같습니다.
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### Author:  [@Stephen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Stephen)
#### Post date: [9월 3, 2020, 2:12오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/27 "2020-09-03T02:12:42Z")
그룹 관련해서, 그룹 링크를 원박스(onebox)로 표시하여 인라인으로 가입하거나 지원할 수 있는 기능이 도입될 가능성은 있을까요?
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### Author:  [@thegurjyot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/thegurjyot)
#### Post date: [9월 3, 2020, 6:11오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/28 "2020-09-03T06:11:14Z")
이 아이디어 정말 좋아…
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### Author:  [@thegurjyot](https://meta.discourse.org/u/thegurjyot)
#### Post date: [5월 30, 2021, 2:21오전 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/give-groups-and-tags-some-love/113783/29 "2021-05-30T02:21:02Z")
이 아이디어가 아직 진행 중인가요??