# Group administration functions should be better surfaced

**URL:** <https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-administration-functions-should-be-better-surfaced/112303>\
**Category:** Feature\
**Created:** [March 22, 2019, 6:17am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-administration-functions-should-be-better-surfaced/112303 "2019-03-22T06:17:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![sam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/sam/32/102149_2.png) [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2019, 6:49am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-administration-functions-should-be-better-surfaced/112303/3 "2019-03-22T06:49:52Z")

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> [@codinghorror](#):
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> I see it right there

That is the title, not group membership. It only works if you are dealing with a single group and force title, which I kind of am, but for some reason some users did not get the title (and there is no “reset” action)

We already have this problem on meta … some with our customers that have the `customer` title, but we would like to see the actual customer group name on the card.

> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Why do you need to _force_ people to watch a category? I’m very unclear about this. Forcing people to do things does not generally work well in my experience.

This is very common for small groups management and people moving from a mailing list world, we already have the site setting for: `default categories watching` which can not be used for this cause they are secure categories.

We also have `Default notification level for group messages` which is not usable on categories.

We already have 2 ways to force people into watching we ship, and both do not fit this need.

I guess an alternative here is **Welcome to the amazing group** automatic PM or notification we could send to every member that becomes a member of the group (optional), which teaches them about the group and how to click the “circle” so they can watch the group categories if they want to. I am not against this, I think it could help.

The problem is teaching this at scale. The default of watching is a better default for certain configurations of people.

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