# Group Title, only optionally make it default

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-title-only-optionally-make-it-default/296451
**Category:** Feature
**Tags:** groups
**Created:** [February 23, 2024, 8:44am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-title-only-optionally-make-it-default/296451 "2024-02-23T08:44:29Z")
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### Author: ![ecki](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ecki/32/264025_2.png) [@ecki](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ecki)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2024, 8:44am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/group-title-only-optionally-make-it-default/296451/1 "2024-02-23T08:44:29Z")

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When I create a new group, I want it to offer a new selectable title to the group members. However the option to do so in the Manage-\>Membership-\>Effects-\>Default Title does not only provide the title as a list entry, but it also selects it. Should this be a two part setting with “Title for Group Members” and “Enable by default” or at least bind it to “Enable as Primary” instead?

Must be missing something here, I dont want to mess with the hand-crafted appearance of my users by forcing them a secondary title.