# Hide 'New Topic' when no permission

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/hide-new-topic-when-no-permission/304717
**Category:** UX
**Created:** [April 20, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/hide-new-topic-when-no-permission/304717 "2024-04-20T11:12:50Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author: ![anon82911141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@anon82911141](https://meta.discourse.org/u/anon82911141)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/hide-new-topic-when-no-permission/304717/1 "2024-04-20T11:12:50Z")

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Hi everyone,

Is it possible to hide this button when you can’t actually _use_ it? Thought that the standard installation would include this, however, it does not. Seems like a no brainer. Doesn’t seem like that’s an option, so this is a feature suggestion.

 ![Screenshot](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/c/a/2/ca24a95d7ea628e4bd0f2234e962a290c0842546.png)

Thanks.

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### Author: ![thoka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/thoka/32/115652_2.png) [@thoka](https://meta.discourse.org/u/thoka)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/hide-new-topic-when-no-permission/304717/2 "2024-04-20T12:10:59Z")

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I use this CSS to hide the disabled button together with the tooltip:

```CSS
.category-navigation button[disabled] {
    display: none;
    + span.fk-d-tooltip__trigger {
            display: none;
    }
}

```

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### Author: ![jimkleiber](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/jimkleiber/32/121814_2.png) [@jimkleiber](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jimkleiber)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/hide-new-topic-when-no-permission/304717/4 "2024-04-21T14:32:54Z")

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Sometimes being able to see what they can’t do can help advertise the feature to them. For example, if they would be able to do it if they joined a group or paid a subscription or used the platform more so they had a higher trust level, then showing a disabled button (or link or whatnot) can help them become aware the feature exists.

But I agree that it’s not always helpful to show such things.

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### Author: ![bryce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/bryce/32/377822_2.png) [@bryce](https://meta.discourse.org/u/bryce)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/hide-new-topic-when-no-permission/304717/5 "2024-04-21T19:21:07Z")

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One thing to consider here is user experience. If they see the button disabled, it’s pretty clear that for some reason they can’t create a topic. However, if it’s hidden, they might spend a long time looking for it, thinking it must be somewhere else or that there’s some trick to it!
