I’m a bit confused as to how the visibility of automatic groups works. At this point, I am just talking about the /groups directory. Here is what I am seeing in a pretty fresh install of 2.7.0.beta4: If an user with admin or moderator bits looks at /groups, they see all 8 automatic groups (admin…

[image] mdoggydog: Is this how it is supposed to work? Or is there something wrong with the handling of the Visibility parameters for these groups? There is a comment in the code that explains what is going on: “hide automatic groups from all non stuff to de-clutter page.” That happens here: d…

[image] simon: What the code is doing is overriding the group visibility settings for automatic groups when the groups page is viewed by a non-staff users. Well, that does explain it. And I’m sure that code was written with the best intentions, but it is broken because: Maybe I want other …

Also: this “lets-just-hide-the-automatic-groups-on-the-Groups-catalog-despite-the-visibility-setting” behavior is bad because it obscures the other aspects of visibility_level that are still meaningful. E.g., Admin X tries out visibility settings and realizes that non-staff users cannot see trus…

Hi mdoggydog :slight_smile: Some points seem valid to me, such as: [image] mdoggydog: The management interface for automatic groups does allow me to set the visibility of non-Moderator automatic groups, but this setting is ignored. Which is confusing. I invite you to create a feature topic…

[image] Coin-coin le Canapin: I invite you to create a Feature topic with your suggestions Done! [image] Respect the visibility settings of all automatic groups Feature (One person’s feature request is another person’s bug report… upside_down_face) The…

How does visibility of automatic groups work?

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mdoggydog October 4, 2023, 5:35am 7

Done!

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How does visibility of automatic groups work?

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