# How to backup Discourse + Database from Console?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-backup-discourse-database-from-console/54169
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [December 13, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-backup-discourse-database-from-console/54169 "2016-12-13T09:24:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@Lutz](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Lutz)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2016, 9:24am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-backup-discourse-database-from-console/54169/1 "2016-12-13T09:24:04Z")
Let’s say I want to try a new version of Discourse. For safety reasons I would like to backup everything, so I can do a easy roll-back to the last version. I generally do a “git pull && ./launcher rebuild app” to get the new versions.I only run discourse at my docker installation.
Is it enough enough to stop discourse, tar everything from /var/discourse and /var/lib/docker? Is there a better solution, maybe with docker commands?
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-backup-discourse-database-from-console/54169/2 "2016-12-13T20:41:50Z")
It is generally not possible to downgrade to older Discourse versions.
However taking a full backup before the upgrade should work.
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### Author:  [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-backup-discourse-database-from-console/54169/3 "2019-04-08T17:52:46Z")
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### Author:  [@pfaffman](https://meta.discourse.org/u/pfaffman)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-backup-discourse-database-from-console/54169/4 "2019-04-08T18:06:27Z")
The solution that I recommend now is to have a separate staging site that shares an S3 backup bucket with the main site. You also want to see that the staging site won’t send email; an easy solution is to configure it with bogus SMTP settings.
With this in place, you can easily restore the most recent live data to the staging site and run an upgrade there. If it works, you run the upgrade on the main site. If you’re paranoid, you see what commit the staging site is running and enter that as the `version` in your `yml` file.
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### Author:  [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2022, 3:58am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-backup-discourse-database-from-console/54169/6 "2022-06-28T03:58:43Z")
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### Author:  [@pfaffman](https://meta.discourse.org/u/pfaffman)
#### Post date: [June 28, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-backup-discourse-database-from-console/54169/7 "2022-06-28T21:31:44Z")