# How to properly debug AI Personas?

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-properly-debug-ai-personas/345570
**Category:** Support
**Tags:** ai, ai-bot
**Created:** [January 4, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-properly-debug-ai-personas/345570 "2025-01-04T11:46:42Z")
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### Author: ![Overgrow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/overgrow/32/478189_2.png) [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-properly-debug-ai-personas/345570/1 "2025-01-04T11:46:42Z")

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I’ve created a custom persona/bot using the [howto](https://meta.discourse.org/t/new-ai-persona-editor-for-discourse/286271). After some initial success, it seems to work sporadically. I have yet to identify the root cause. The problem is that no reply is created by the bot, and there is no sign of any error in `/logs`.

What is the next step to try or look for?

How do you generally debug AI personas?

I’ve also noticed that while the information icon (for debug purposes) is properly shown under each bot’s post when interacting in a PM with the AI, there is no such icon in their public posts. Is that correct?

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### Author: ![Falco](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/falco/32/179432_2.png) [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-properly-debug-ai-personas/345570/2 "2025-02-14T14:11:01Z")

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What LLM/Provider are you using?

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### Author: ![Overgrow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/overgrow/32/478189_2.png) [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-properly-debug-ai-personas/345570/3 "2025-02-14T16:31:22Z")

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OpenAI 4o-mini

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### Author: ![Overgrow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/overgrow/32/478189_2.png) [@Overgrow](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Overgrow)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2025, 10:03am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-properly-debug-ai-personas/345570/4 "2025-03-18T10:03:33Z")

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Hi,

Sorry to bug you again. I don’t mean to add more work for you, but I’m wondering about the proper method for debugging AI personas.

I’ve followed the guide and created two bots. The issue is that they sometimes react when tagged, and sometimes they don’t. Even with the same user and privileges. It seems to happen randomly, and no errors appear in the log. Is there any debugging process available in the current version that I could use?

It’s getting to the point where I’ll probably have to disable them because users keep making fun of the bot’s unreliability.

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### Author: ![Saif](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/saif/32/318253_2.png) [@Saif](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Saif)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-properly-debug-ai-personas/345570/5 "2025-03-19T19:02:51Z")

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> [@Overgrow](#):
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> The issue is that they sometimes react when tagged, and sometimes they don’t.

I assume you are using the mentions via the following options on the Personas (you must have a user created)?

**Allow topic mentions**

**Allow chat channel mentions**

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What would be some examples? Im thinking this might be prompt related
