# How to turn off a checker for "Title seems unclear, is it a complete sentence?"

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [Janvier 2, 2017, 9:21 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070 "2017-01-02T21:21:09Z")
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### Author: ![Sung\_Kim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/sung_kim/32/65739_2.png) [@Sung\_Kim](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Sung_Kim)
#### Post date: [Janvier 2, 2017, 9:21 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/1 "2017-01-02T21:21:09Z")

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Even ehought I put a title, I am getting this message:

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/8/e/8ec63302e3d5fd4250c801c6f749f6fb99a6be0c.png)

Perhaps, it’s because I am using Korean in the title. How can I turn off the checker? I set “title min entropy” to 0, but I still get this error message.

FYI, the title I used is “r0.12 리비전 작업 진행 사항을 잠시 공유해봅니다.” (in Korean).

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### Author: ![Falco](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/falco/32/179432_2.png) [@Falco](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Falco)
#### Post date: [Janvier 2, 2017, 10:46 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/2 "2017-01-02T22:46:00Z")

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Enable `allow uppercase posts`.

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### Author: ![Sung\_Kim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/sung_kim/32/65739_2.png) [@Sung\_Kim](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Sung_Kim)
#### Post date: [Janvier 2, 2017, 11:02 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/3 "2017-01-02T23:02:15Z")

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Thanks! It works. I guess we need a better error message here. 🙂

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### Author: ![pfaffman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/pfaffman/32/120154_2.png) [@pfaffman](https://meta.discourse.org/u/pfaffman)
#### Post date: [Janvier 3, 2017, 8:46 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/4 "2017-01-03T08:46:41Z")

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@codinghorror, perhaps this should be in the startup wizard if a language with this problem is selected.

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### Author: ![Cyclops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cyclops/32/119674_2.png) [@Cyclops](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Cyclops)
#### Post date: [Juin 18, 2017, 12:36 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/9 "2017-06-18T00:36:44Z")

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I find this to be an extremely annoying feature as well. I cannot figure out how to turn it off. I don’t want to enable “All Caps” in posts, but I also think something like “To Forum or Not to Forum” is understandable for my community, but that is not allowed. The technology used does not seem to work very well and, honestly, I would like to control what I set a topic as - even if the software doesn’t like it.

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [Juin 18, 2017, 12:38 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/10 "2017-06-18T00:38:55Z")

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> [@Cyclops](#):
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> like “To Forum or Not to Forum”

This is an allowed topic title, so I am not sure what you mean? You can test on [try.discourse.org](http://try.discourse.org) if needed.

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### Author: ![Cyclops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cyclops/32/119674_2.png) [@Cyclops](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Cyclops)
#### Post date: [Juin 18, 2017, 6:19 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/11 "2017-06-18T06:19:21Z")

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> [@codinghorror](#):
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> > [@Cyclops](#):
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> > like “To Forum or Not to Forum”
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> This is an allowed topic title, so I am not sure what you mean? You can test on [try.discourse.org](http://try.discourse.org) if needed.

I don’t know what to tell you. I had to change the min entropy setting from 10 to 5 to get it to accept it.

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [Juin 18, 2017, 7:19 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/12 "2017-06-18T07:19:40Z")

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Try adding a question mark. That’s a rather extreme edge case, the palindrome of topic titles..

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### Author: ![tophee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/tophee/32/73406_2.png) [@tophee](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tophee)
#### Post date: [Juin 18, 2017, 9:48 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/13 "2017-06-18T09:48:44Z")

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> [@Cyclops](#):
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> I don’t know what to tell you. I had to change the min entropy setting from 10 to 5 to get it to accept it.

But at least you found out how to turn it off, right?

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### Author: ![Cyclops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cyclops/32/119674_2.png) [@Cyclops](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Cyclops)
#### Post date: [Juin 18, 2017, 2:37 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/14 "2017-06-18T14:37:08Z")

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Yes 🙂. Thank you all for the help.

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### Author: ![schungx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/schungx/32/70989_2.png) [@schungx](https://meta.discourse.org/u/schungx)
#### Post date: [Août 29, 2017, 6:26 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/15 "2017-08-29T06:26:11Z")

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Suggest modification:

If title has \>50% letters which are non-ASCII (and non-ASCII Latin Extended, which basically means code point \> 255)…

Turn off rules related to English (e.g. complete sentence, all-caps etc.)

Because under such circumstances, it is highly likely that:

1. The title is **not** in English
2. The English letters used in the title are probably ID’s, model numbers, codes (e.g. stock code), abbrev, prefix, etc. that should be left as-is
3. Applying English styling rules is a mistake

This can be simply done by:

1. Define `non-english` if (ch \> 255) / (Latin letters total count) \> 1
2. Do not apply `prettify` on `non-english`
3. Do not apply `seems_quiet` on `non-english`
4. Do not apply `seems_pronounceable` and `seems_unpretentious` on `non-english` because their punctuation may not be in the ASCII set (e.g. CJK punctuation are all \> 255)

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [Août 29, 2017, 11:34 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/16 "2017-08-29T11:34:14Z")

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Why bother with all that? Just enable the site setting as specified. If you feel that is worth doing, submit a pull request.

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### Author: ![schungx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/schungx/32/70989_2.png) [@schungx](https://meta.discourse.org/u/schungx)
#### Post date: [Août 29, 2017, 11:36 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/17 "2017-08-29T11:36:42Z")

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Well, I suppose there are mix-language forums out there.

For example, the forum I’m building is wordwide and is roughly 1/4 English, 1/4 European languages, and 1/2 Chinese.

Just turning off all the `TextSentinel` goodies will lose it on one half of all the content where it would have made sense.

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### Author: ![Shrike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/shrike/32/68103_2.png) [@Shrike](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Shrike)
#### Post date: [Janvier 19, 2018, 4:04 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/18 "2018-01-19T16:04:19Z")

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I have enabled suggested “allow uppercase posts” setting but Discourse still prevents me from create a new post with titles like “Исключение TransientPropertyValueException” (where “Исключение” is “exception” in Russian).  
How to switch off this “cleaver” (read “very annoying”) logic?

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### Author: ![schleifer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/schleifer/32/86416_2.png) [@schleifer](https://meta.discourse.org/u/schleifer)
#### Post date: [Janvier 19, 2018, 8:05 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/19 "2018-01-19T20:05:23Z")

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> [@Shrike](#):
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> How to switch off this “cleaver” (read “very annoying”) logic?

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I’m not sure, Wally. Have you tried the suggestion above?

> [@Cyclops](#):
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> change the min entropy setting

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### Author: ![Shrike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/shrike/32/68103_2.png) [@Shrike](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Shrike)
#### Post date: [Janvier 22, 2018, 3:47 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/20 "2018-01-22T15:47:22Z")

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sure, Wally

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/6/1/613f980c39a4f6884a820f72564b8b8d67f81488.png)

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### Author: ![Ivan\_Rapekas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ivan_rapekas/32/248924_2.png) [@Ivan\_Rapekas](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Ivan_Rapekas)
#### Post date: [Février 3, 2018, 12:10 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/22 "2018-02-03T12:10:52Z")

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Hi, @Shrike, I think the allowable word lenght should be \>30. Look at the `title max word length` setting. I use 60 in my forum for java developers​😉

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### Author: ![Shrike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/shrike/32/68103_2.png) [@Shrike](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Shrike)
#### Post date: [Février 5, 2018, 1:54 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/23 "2018-02-05T13:54:44Z")

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Thanks! I’ve increased it as well.

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### Author: ![system](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/system/32/443519_2.png) [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [Mai 7, 2020, 12:04 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/24 "2020-05-07T00:04:44Z")

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### Author: ![rishabh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/rishabh/32/179446_2.png) [@rishabh](https://meta.discourse.org/u/rishabh)
#### Post date: [Novembre 23, 2020, 11:46 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-to-turn-off-a-checker-for-title-seems-unclear-is-it-a-complete-sentence/55070/26 "2020-11-23T11:46:09Z")

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Grâce à @nbianca, nous disposons désormais de messages d’erreur plus clairs pour les titres en majuscules, les titres à faible entropie ou les titres contenant des mots très longs. Différents messages d’erreur s’afficheront selon les valeurs de :

- `allow_uppercase_posts`
- `title min entropy`
- `title max word length`

> <https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/11149>
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> It used to simply say "title is invalid" without giving any hint what
> the probl…em could be. This commit adds different errors messages for
> all caps titles, low entropy titles or titles with very long words.
