# Idea: Chat Posts
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905
**Category:** Feature
**Created:** [July 19, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905 "2025-07-19T16:34:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_McIvor](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Johnny_McIvor)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/1 "2025-07-19T16:34:47Z")
The great thing about having a forum is that you can archive and search all of the material very easily.
However, people are turned off by forums because of the lack of spontaneous exchanges.
I suggest a hybrid alternative: users can make posts that contain chatboxes. These chatboxes have a message limit and can be easily archived.
This way, you have a mix of spontaneous exchanges and slow, well-thought-out posts.
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### Author:  [@patrickemin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/patrickemin)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/2 "2025-07-19T16:47:30Z")
That’s an idea. Are there some forums platforms that work like that already ?
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_McIvor](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Johnny_McIvor)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/3 "2025-07-19T17:13:14Z")
I don’t think so.
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### Author:  [@satonotdead](https://meta.discourse.org/u/satonotdead)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/4 "2025-07-19T18:32:57Z")
That’s literally a 'Trollbox‘ on crypto space. Check xmrbazaar(.)com.
I don’t know if it can give value to Discourse, because there are chats, messages and topics/posts.
Should change everything to not be redundant.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_McIvor](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Johnny_McIvor)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/5 "2025-07-19T19:29:27Z")
I’m on the website, I can’t find any examples. What should I click on?
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### Author:  [@nathank](https://meta.discourse.org/u/nathank)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/6 "2025-07-19T19:44:56Z")
There is some new (still slightly unrefined) functionality to do just that with Event Posts:
> [@Event Chat Channels Now Available](https://meta.discourse.org/t/event-chat-channels-now-available/367885):
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> We’ve added the ability to create dedicated chat channels for calendar events. What’s new: Admins and moderators can enable chat integration when creating events A private chat channel is automatically created for the event Users who mark “Going” or “Interested” are automatically added to the channel Events display a link to their associated chat channel
Perhaps you could ask for that to be extended to all Topics?
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### Author:  [@Rubi](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Rubi)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/8 "2025-07-20T02:55:02Z")
From a moderation perspective, I think this is not a good idea.
Of course, it depends on the specific community but I see lots of potential for abuse and trolling.
Just my tuppence worth.
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### Author:  [@simon](https://meta.discourse.org/u/simon)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/9 "2025-07-20T03:25:15Z")
YouTube live streams, except that the chat is enabled when the live stream is happening. Comments are enabled after the live stream is finished.
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### Author:  [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2025, 6:39am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/10 "2025-07-20T06:39:41Z")
And all that SEO is then lost to the ether.
I think the events format really makes sense but you really want people to chat about a normal post and none of that material to then be searchable on the internet?
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### Author:  [@satonotdead](https://meta.discourse.org/u/satonotdead)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2025, 8:06pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/11 "2025-07-20T20:06:29Z")
> [@merefield](#):
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> And all that SEO is then lost to the ether.
SEO is actually being replaced by IA.
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### Author:  [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield)
#### Post date: [July 20, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/12 "2025-07-20T20:36:48Z")
But the most effective AI uses web search? And web search uses … SEO.
You can’t only use AI without web search or you miss the last few months since the newest training data.
So SEO is still king.
In fact SEO is a blend of embeddings and keyword search. It’s been this way since well before the LLM revolution.
Google has been using embeddings for web search since 2015.
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### Author:  [@satonotdead](https://meta.discourse.org/u/satonotdead)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/13 "2025-07-21T01:53:24Z")
> [@merefield](#):
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> But the most effective AI uses web search? And web search uses … SEO.
Mainstream will be published or edited by IA, SEO will be almost unexistent for humans.
Check [Antitrust Division | U.S. and Plaintiff States v. Google LLC [2020] - Remedies Hearing Exhibits](https://www.justice.gov/atr/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-google-llc-2020-remedies-hearing-exhibits?ref=nixsanctuary.com)
The human interactions is going to be dark, meanwhile we have some spaces like Discourse, ActivityPub, Peertube.
But not organic SEO like old days (webmentions on resistance).
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### Author:  [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2025, 6:40am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/14 "2025-07-21T06:40:54Z")
I don’t understand your argument.
But in any case I am still seeing significant search referrals and plenty of new sign ups.
Google remains my Top Traffic Source for the most active site I have.
In fact I think the diversification of search providers might actually help me as there will be more search options for people than Google.
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### Author:  [@satonotdead](https://meta.discourse.org/u/satonotdead)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/15 "2025-07-21T20:41:43Z")
> [@merefield](#):
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> I don’t understand your argument.
In the illusion (aka reality) money is king. On our actual digital society money was on SEO, now it’s on AI.
Google is not a search app anymore, it reply literally from AI.
So if one wants to find something one needs to use SearXNG or open-source alternatives with exponential small chance of success.
I said the mainstream is going to be replaced, so it’s expected you still get SEO traffic today.
You can read the link I posted before, it’s all on it from Google itself.
> **[Google's AI Mode rolls out to US, will add support for deeper research,...](https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/20/googles-ai-mode-rolls-out-to-us-will-add-support-for-deeper-research-comparison-shopping-and-more/)**
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> Google's AI Mode, the experimental Google Search feature that lets users ask complex, multi-part questions via an AI interface, will roll out to everyone
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### Author:  [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/16 "2025-07-21T20:50:42Z")
> [@satonotdead](#):
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> On our actual digital society money was on SEO, now it’s on AI.
What do you mean?
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### Author:  [@satonotdead](https://meta.discourse.org/u/satonotdead)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/17 "2025-07-21T21:06:34Z")
I understand it’s really off-topic to continue, but if you want we can discuss about it with very much pleasure via PM.
The basic idea is that people had their [attention broken because social media](https://cdspress.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Updated_MS_AUG_2024_30_Kovan_Proof_FINAL.pdf) and AI is going to the rescue for show data (dopamine) with the less effor as possible.
You see:
Nobody wants to search, then AI wins. They have already implemented AI on Bing, Google [is the next](https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/20/googles-ai-mode-rolls-out-to-us-will-add-support-for-deeper-research-comparison-shopping-and-more/).
Then you can see where is the money:
> **[Google strikes $60 million deal with Reddit, allowing search giant to train...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-reddit-60-million-deal-ai-training/)**
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> Google wants access to Reddit users' "authentic, human conversations" to help train its artificial intelligence tools.
And search the rest (I kindly suggest you to use [SearXNG](https://searx.space/)).
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### Author:  [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/18 "2025-07-21T21:38:46Z")
I think yours is a very pessimistic take.
Why are you bothering with Discourse then?
I get that fewer people will bother with Reddit, because the interface is atrocious and the user experience is awful. Chatbot interfaces are way better than Reddit!
But AI cannot survive without novel content.
Many content providers including independent forums and news sites will be hiding more content behind paywalls and trust screens, forcing visits outside of chatbots.
AI will not have all the answers or the newest information.
It will be increasingly expensive to train new models as they get bigger and bigger and so web search tools will be the order of the day as they will always lag 6 months behind in information novelty. And where there is web search, there is SEO …
In any case people want to talk to people not bots all the time so they will still seek out the town squares.
Why are you talking to me if your ChatGPT account suffices?
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### Author:  [@satonotdead](https://meta.discourse.org/u/satonotdead)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/19 "2025-07-21T22:54:58Z")
> [@merefield](#):
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> I think yours is a very pessimistic take.
I insist to continue via PM and it’s better to take a neutral approach without any personal takes.
I understand my point of view as real, not pessimistic, not possitive. Just as is on reality, without sentiments involved.
> [@merefield](#):
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> Why are you bothering with Discourse then?
Because Discourse is not OpenAI, Gemini or SEO.
> [@merefield](#):
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> But AI cannot survive without novel content.
They already have all the data they need. Why to continue looking for human interactions when they got ~20 years and everyone is paying for instant replies?
[Google strikes $60 million deal with Reddit, allowing search giant to train AI models on human posts - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-reddit-60-million-deal-ai-training/)
_All the links shows you a different information that you would take in consideration if you have really interest on it._
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### Author:  [@merefield](https://meta.discourse.org/u/merefield)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/20 "2025-07-21T22:59:47Z")
I have no interest debating this in a PM. We can agree to disagree.
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### Author:  [@HAWK](https://meta.discourse.org/u/HAWK)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2025, 4:33am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/idea-chat-posts/374905/21 "2025-07-22T04:33:51Z")
> **[Community is good for SEO. | Evan Hamilton](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/evanhamilton_community-is-good-for-seo-but-its-great-activity-7348716311759179776-KSAo/)**
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> Community is good for SEO. But it's great for AIO.
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> Most Google searches are only a few words long. The trick was to build a page that captured this broad term and then make sure the content within addressed multiple uses cases. AI has completely...
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