# Improving usability of wiki post editing?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009
**Category:** Feature
**Created:** [6 februari 2017 om 20:18 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009 "2017-02-06T20:18:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@hellekin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/hellekin)
#### Post date: [23 juni 2017 om 20:15 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/22 "2017-06-23T20:15:54Z")
I think it would still be useful to write `Edit Wiki`, since it’s the current spelling for wiki posts, and when you refer to it to users, they will actually look for ‘wiki’ somewhere.
“- I turned the post into a wiki: you can edit it.”
“- I can’t find the wiki, where is it?”
😊
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [23 juni 2017 om 20:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/23 "2017-06-23T20:17:33Z")
A single word is more consistent, and editing is the actual activity.
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### Author:  [@hellekin](https://meta.discourse.org/u/hellekin)
#### Post date: [23 juni 2017 om 20:24 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/24 "2017-06-23T20:24:52Z")
Then it needs to be differentiated in some way, maybe with color (‘wiki green’) to highlight the fact it’s not just a normal post, and probably a tooltip as well saying “Edit Wiki”. The current green marker on the top-right is way too small an indication for most users I’ve seen.
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### Author:  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [23 juni 2017 om 20:27 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/25 "2017-06-23T20:27:50Z")
@hellekin, you should be able to customize that already. Using the following class gives you the whole post to work with.
```plaintext
.topic-post.wiki {
}
```
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [23 juni 2017 om 20:31 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/26 "2017-06-23T20:31:47Z")
We use the `pencil in a square` for editing wiki, maybe if we just use that glyph instead (plus a tooltip) it will be clear enough that its a _wiki edit_
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [23 juni 2017 om 20:32 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/27 "2017-06-23T20:32:59Z")
Yes, good idea, part of the fix here is to add a word, make the button more prominent and akin to reply, the primary action. Because I agree with this change in spirit, the _primary action_ of a wiki is indeed editing, _not_ replying.
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### Author:  [@erlend\_sh](https://meta.discourse.org/u/erlend_sh)
#### Post date: [24 juni 2017 om 10:12 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/28 "2017-06-24T10:12:30Z")
> [@sam](#):
>
> We use the pencil in a square for editing wiki,
That [changed recently](https://meta.discourse.org/t/people-confuse-two-pencil-icons-edit-the-message-and-number-of-past-revisions/22807). That (green) icon means “view past (wiki) revisions” now. I see that we’re still using the (red) pencil icon for normal edits, which I disagree with. It should be consistent:
- Pencil = click to edit
- Pencil-in-a-square = see revision history
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [24 juni 2017 om 10:19 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/29 "2017-06-24T10:19:54Z")
Well sort of. The pencil means view edits as well on a normal post. At any rate I agree the key action is edit and that is the pencil!
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### Author:  [@erlend\_sh](https://meta.discourse.org/u/erlend_sh)
#### Post date: [24 juni 2017 om 10:30 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/30 "2017-06-24T10:30:30Z")
> [@codinghorror](#):
>
> Well sort of. The pencil means view edits as well on a normal post.
That’s what I’m saying. It shouldn’t be used for that. We should use a red pencil-in-a-square icon for that, so that the plain pencil icon **always** without exception means “click here to edit this thing”
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### Author:  [@eviltrout](https://meta.discourse.org/u/eviltrout)
#### Post date: [26 juni 2017 om 18:35 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/31 "2017-06-26T18:35:37Z")
This commit moves the Edit out to where reply was, and hides reply behind the ellipsis:
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/4f27259e275a15093a550f8bca0956706cec8885](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/4f27259e275a15093a550f8bca0956706cec8885)
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [26 juni 2017 om 18:42 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/32 "2017-06-26T18:42:48Z")
I made the [first post here](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009) a wiki for testing.
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### Author:  [@smaffulli](https://meta.discourse.org/u/smaffulli)
#### Post date: [26 juni 2017 om 21:22 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/33 "2017-06-26T21:22:56Z")
I find the OP confusing: luckily there are already some responses so I can quickly respond hitting a ‘reply’ button. But if I look at a wiki post, I have no visual clue of why that post is different than other posts. I can see new users being confused by the non immediate visibility of the Reply button.
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> the primary action of a wiki is indeed editing, not replying.
I disagree with this assessment, too. Even in Wikipedia, for each page there is a Talk page. @codinghorror I agreed with you more when you said that edits to a wiki page are a lot rarer than visitors. I’d argue that questions and conversations around a wiki page are more popular than edits.
I’d rather have a visible clue that a post is a wiki, like a changed color or a new, separate call to action (like @Tom_Newsom [suggested](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/4)) and keep the Reply button where it is, consistent with other types of posts.
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### Author:  [@eviltrout](https://meta.discourse.org/u/eviltrout)
#### Post date: [26 juni 2017 om 21:38 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/34 "2017-06-26T21:38:38Z")
Small tweak: I’m no longer hiding the reply button by default. It’ll show up outside of the ellipsis … area.
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/10358811a10668cdcf8e20055c6f20873b6d56d8](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/10358811a10668cdcf8e20055c6f20873b6d56d8)
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [28 januari 2018 om 11:53 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/improving-usability-of-wiki-post-editing/57009/35 "2018-01-28T11:53:13Z")
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