# Indescriptive error message when you make a request-only group with no owner

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049
**Category:** UX
**Tags:** fixed
**Created:** [May 29, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049 "2026-05-29T00:48:18Z")
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### Author: ![darkpixlz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/darkpixlz/32/549896_2.png) [@darkpixlz](https://meta.discourse.org/u/darkpixlz)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049/1 "2026-05-29T00:48:18Z")

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When you try to make a request only group with no owner like this:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/0/f/b/0fb68f5f85e3930df1dd2d3d53d159a0c669b20f.png)

… you will get a generic FAILED message:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/5/e/e/5ee3c3f9d0faeaae8512d4305dcdf4a321879adb.png)

This isn’t a huge issue, but it would be nice if there was a note there saying what is wrong. I unknowingly encountered the error and didn’t know what was wrong until I noticed I had no group owners.

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