# Indescriptive error message when you make a request-only group with no owner

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049
**Category:** UX
**Tags:** fixed
**Created:** [May 29, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049 "2026-05-29T00:48:18Z")
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### Author: ![ted](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/ted/32/283882_2.png) [@ted](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ted)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2026, 2:41am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049/3 "2026-05-29T02:41:43Z")

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I made a PR [here](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/40391) to return a better error message from the back-end:

 ![Screenshot 2026-05-29 at 10.36.27 AM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/4X/1/a/c/1aca4ba141bd6405cc02f578b973266a562e086c.png)

The error message was already there in the translation file, so probably a regression.

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