# Indescriptive error message when you make a request-only group with no owner

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049
**Category:** UX
**Tags:** fixed
**Created:** [May 29, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049 "2026-05-29T00:48:18Z")
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### Author: ![darkpixlz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/darkpixlz/32/549896_2.png) [@darkpixlz](https://meta.discourse.org/u/darkpixlz)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2026, 6:00am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/indescriptive-error-message-when-you-make-a-request-only-group-with-no-owner/404049/4 "2026-05-29T06:00:59Z")

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> [@ted](#):
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> so probably a regression.

seems like it to me

> [@"You cannot allow membership requests without any owners."](https://meta.discourse.org/t/you-cannot-allow-membership-requests-without-any-owners/64760):
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> [[image] ](https://i.imgur.com/RHedMjK.png) I’ve got this error everytime I try to create a group with the setting “Allow users to send membership requests to group owners”. When you create a new custom group you can’t add the owners immediately because you need to save the group first. [[image] ](https://i.imgur.com/06yr4ak.png) Probably this particular setting need some review. At least it can be removed here, you can see it after you save the group [[image] ](https://i.imgur.com/brVZhzd.png) …

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