It’s really helpful to know. Now I understand why Martin said he won’t move the change to stable before the problem is resolved. I had checked the documentation back then and wondered what difference it makes if beta already means ‘enabled by default’.
I also wonder how many admins lose the option to opt out and provide feedback before the change is permanent if you remove it after being in beta - skipping ‘stable’ (and permanent).
So stable is then only relevant for the few sites where the admin adjusted the hidden site setting to enable changes later?
How will this change affect the fact that there is still no solution for theme components and the replacement of the everyone group?
If beta enables the change for everyone, not moving it to stable
does no longer seem that helpful. It will still result in components being broken for almost all forums.
The change is still not permanent until it reaches stable/permanent, we won’t remove it earlier…beta just enables it by default earlier for self-hosters. As Dave says:
You can still disable it if there are issues in beta.
I’m working on this presently, I had to get internal consensus on what to do with this. So far we haven’t heard any feedback on this except from you, so I don’t think it’s causing a huge amount of problems for site admins being in beta right now.
Trust me, I want to get this fixed as much as you do, it is my change, but I also have competing priorities on my time.
Sorry, I probably have a misunderstanding. In your linked PR, I see that the setting was added back. What I don’t understand is what effect it has now. What exactly changes depending on whether I enable or disable the change? I can’t quite follow it in the code.
As it is now, the step that would have actually enabled the change for most forums was still skipped, right? So they never had the option to opt out because it affected their forum, or am I still misunderstanding the process?
I also tried to look at how it works now, but I can’t find the change. Does anyone have an idea what I’m doing wrong? The version is 08cf6f4
When changes become Permanent they show up on /whats-new instead, will add this information to the OP, along with anything else we may have missed over the last few months.