# Is 8) really a good smiley code?!
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276
**Category:** Feature
**Created:** [2015年七月21日 22:15 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276 "2015-07-21T22:15:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@ThiefMaster](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ThiefMaster)
#### Post date: [2015年七月21日 22:15 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/1 "2015-07-21T22:15:06Z")
Continuing the discussion from [Use more standard smiley codes (`:)` instead of `😄`)](https://meta.discourse.org/t/use-more-standard-smiley-codes-instead-of-smile/1822/49):
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> and 8) (sunglasses)
Is having this code really a good idea? I think it’s the most common “false positive” you can get… Imagine someone posting a recipe with an alternative version for more ingredients.. or anything else that contains a number in parentheses without the number being the _only_ thing in there.
`4 (or 8) whatevers` results in “4 (or 8) whatevers”.
Besides that… is `8)` really so popular? I rarely see it on Facebook or other forums…
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [2015年七月21日 22:29 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/2 "2015-07-21T22:29:51Z")
We’ll see. I personally prefer 8) to `or 8)` anyway. 😉
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### Author:  [@strager](https://meta.discourse.org/u/strager)
#### Post date: [2015年七月21日 22:30 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/3 "2015-07-21T22:30:45Z")
I agree with you partially here. For some smilies, you definatly want to convert common marks for example 😉 and 🙂 `( ;) and :) )`- for others however, you need to consider the commonality of the combination. 8) ( `8)` ) while somewhat common is (as you pointed out above) likely to occur in every day use - in these instances I’d err on the side of them NOT wanting a smiley.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [2015年七月21日 22:43 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/4 "2015-07-21T22:43:34Z")
I think we should hold off on this till the new Markdown parser.
Cause controlling start order of lists are just hard without being able to control the start number (which is a feature of CommonMark)
1. so people hack lists
2. like this
3. bla
After new CommonMark
1. test
2. test
3. will work as expected.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [2015年七月21日 23:49 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/5 "2015-07-21T23:49:26Z")
Hmm true I did not consider lists. I’ll revert it for now then.
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### Author:  [@AmiAthena](https://meta.discourse.org/u/AmiAthena)
#### Post date: [2015年七月22日 02:07 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/6 "2015-07-22T02:07:02Z")
This might be why some things require a nose, even if the actual smiley face doesn’t have one. `8-)` is much less likely to come up in normal typing than `8)`
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [2015年七月22日 06:59 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/7 "2015-07-22T06:59:12Z")
Good point, I added `8-)` back in on your advice. Get outta here `8)` you Risky Business motherf\*\*\*er!
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### Author:  [@AmiAthena](https://meta.discourse.org/u/AmiAthena)
#### Post date: [2015年七月22日 07:20 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/8 "2015-07-22T07:20:36Z")
🕶
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [2015年七月23日 04:16 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-8-really-a-good-smiley-code/31276/9 "2015-07-23T04:16:50Z")