# Is TL4 "Make Wiki" Delay intentional?
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726
**Category:** Feature
**Created:** [2 فبراير 2015، 2:51م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726 "2015-02-02T14:51:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@anon25879736](https://meta.discourse.org/u/anon25879736)
#### Post date: [2 فبراير 2015، 2:51م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/1 "2015-02-02T14:51:12Z")
It seems that TL4 users are unable to convert a post into a wiki until that post is at least 5 minutes old. Based on feedback from the admin at my primary forum (@PJH) there does not appear to be any settings to change this timeframe.
- Is this 5 minute delay intentional? If so:
- Why is it not configurable?
- What is the reasoning behind making TL4 users wait 5 minutes before making a post a wiki?
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### Author:  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [2 فبراير 2015، 2:53م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/2 "2015-02-02T14:53:31Z")
My guess is it relates to the “Grace Period” posts have for editing. Not sure why it prevents the Wiki setting though…
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### Author:  [@anon21958287](https://meta.discourse.org/u/anon21958287)
#### Post date: [2 فبراير 2015، 2:54م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/3 "2015-02-02T14:54:36Z")
The “Grace Period” (ninja period, in the vernacular) is only about a minute where this has been observed.
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### Author:  [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [2 فبراير 2015، 2:57م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/4 "2015-02-02T14:57:25Z")
> [@boomzilla](#):
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> The “Grace Period” (ninja period, in the vernacular) is only about a minute where this has been observed.
Ah, well then, that rules out that possibility 🙂
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### Author:  [@PJH](https://meta.discourse.org/u/PJH)
#### Post date: [2 فبراير 2015، 4:25م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/5 "2015-02-02T16:25:44Z")
> [@boomzilla](#):
>
> The “Grace Period” (ninja period, in the vernacular) is only about a minute where this has been observed.
54 seconds. For some reason…
```sql
[postgres@sofa ~]$ psql -d discourse -c "select uh.updated_at, username, previous_value, new_value
from user_histories uh
join users u on u.id=acting_user_id
where subject='ninja_edit_window'
order by uh.updated_at asc;"
updated_at | username | previous_value | new_value
----------------------------+----------+----------------+-----------
2014-06-25 15:56:02.054118 | dhromed | 300 | 60
2014-07-15 16:05:28.750162 | PJH | 60 | 300
2014-07-15 16:05:33.381305 | PJH | 300 | 60
2014-10-29 00:50:43.081509 | system | 60 | 54
(4 rows)
[postgres@sofa ~]$
```
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### Author:  [@anon25879736](https://meta.discourse.org/u/anon25879736)
#### Post date: [2 فبراير 2015، 4:54م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/6 "2015-02-02T16:54:44Z")
> [@cpradio](#):
>
> My guess is it relates to the “Grace Period” posts have for editing. Not sure why it prevents the Wiki setting though…
It should also be noted that this only affects TL4 users. Staff users are able to make posts of any age into wikis.
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### Author:  [@eviltrout](https://meta.discourse.org/u/eviltrout)
#### Post date: [2 فبراير 2015، 6:12م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/7 "2015-02-02T18:12:21Z")
This was a bug, which I have fixed in this commit:
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/f15b0d205f62dad5ffc468cded650677497be148](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/f15b0d205f62dad5ffc468cded650677497be148)
As always, thanks for letting me know about it!
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [2 فبراير 2015، 9:34م UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/8 "2015-02-02T21:34:43Z")
I think @eviltrout just fixed this
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [3 فبراير 2015، 12:07ص UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-tl4-make-wiki-delay-intentional/24726/9 "2015-02-03T00:07:40Z")