# Mailing list mode - broken experience in transition from 1.5-\>1.6
**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863
**Category:** Bug
**Created:** [26 mei 2016 om 19:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863 "2016-05-26T19:17:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@jedc768](https://meta.discourse.org/u/jedc768)
#### Post date: [26 mei 2016 om 19:17 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/1 "2016-05-26T19:17:47Z")
Relevant topic - [Mailing list mode keeps reverting to daily updates](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-keeps-reverting-to-daily-updates/44793/1)
I help run a Discourse forum where we had actively encouraged users to check the box saying “Send me an email for every post” - aka, set `mailing_list_mode = True`.
With the **new** mailing list mode, those users all have `mailing_list_mode = True`, but apparently by default have `mailing_list_mode_frequency = 0`. As a result, they’re no longer getting the individual emails per post that they expected.
**Two issues -**
1 - users that previously had `mailing_list_mode = True` should automatically be opted-in and have the `mailing_list_mode_frequency` set to the relevant value. (Right?)
2 - what’s the right way to make that change at scale for our users?
cc/ @ryanwanger
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [26 mei 2016 om 19:21 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/2 "2016-05-26T19:21:06Z")
Hmm we should handle this better @erlend_sh @zogstrip
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### Author:  [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [26 mei 2016 om 19:29 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/3 "2016-05-26T19:29:28Z")
I experienced this as well, though in the end only a handful of people had mailing list mode turned on at all and were affected. I was able to write to them directly to sort it out. So it was a fairly easy transition once the [settings bug was fixed](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-keeps-reverting-to-daily-updates/44793/8). Unfortunately one of those people was my CEO who was not especially happy about it.
To find out who had mailing list mode turned on and the frequency, I used this [data explorer](https://meta.discourse.org/t/32566?silent=true) query and then exported to csv.
> SELECT user\_id,mailing\_list\_mode,mailing\_list\_mode\_frequency from user\_options
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### Author:  [@ryanwanger](https://meta.discourse.org/u/ryanwanger)
#### Post date: [26 mei 2016 om 19:43 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/4 "2016-05-26T19:43:15Z")
Just to clarify, would just setting mailing\_list\_mode\_frequency = 1 for all the people who had mailing\_list\_mode set to true be the correct fix?
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### Author:  [@tobiaseigen](https://meta.discourse.org/u/tobiaseigen)
#### Post date: [26 mei 2016 om 19:45 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/5 "2016-05-26T19:45:50Z")
Yes - I think it’s fair to assume that is correct. When I look at the [data explorer](https://meta.discourse.org/t/32566?silent=true) results and compare against the user preferences, it matches up.
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### Author:  [@gdpelican](https://meta.discourse.org/u/gdpelican)
#### Post date: [26 mei 2016 om 20:06 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/7 "2016-05-26T20:06:28Z")
I’ve put in a PR to set the frequency default correctly for folks who haven’t upgraded yet:
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/4241/files](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/pull/4241/files)
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [27 mei 2016 om 01:46 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/8 "2016-05-27T01:46:19Z")
Hmm this only fixes brand new account going forward, there is the huge problem of “history” which is now wrong ☹
To get out of this pickle we are going to have to add a once off migration that sets everything 1 on that table, which means we break any people that changed stuff. @neil released a new image yesterday so, ouch.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [27 mei 2016 om 02:10 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/10 "2016-05-27T02:10:13Z")
This is fixed per:
[https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/8c3a0b44baea3388db4b719766a961d3a2114fc9](https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commit/8c3a0b44baea3388db4b719766a961d3a2114fc9)
Sorry but this is the best we can do.
- The new default for “mailing list mode frequency” is daily, site admins can change.
- The “mailing list” warning screen is gone cause it no longer makes sense
- After running the migration all old accounts that had mailing list enabled will be switched to the “every email” frequency, to match old behavior.
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### Author:  [@fefrei](https://meta.discourse.org/u/fefrei)
#### Post date: [27 mei 2016 om 08:16 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/11 "2016-05-27T08:16:20Z")
Should this fix also go into the beta branch? I’m holding off from upgrading right now because of this issue.
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [27 mei 2016 om 08:24 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/12 "2016-05-27T08:24:32Z")
maybe, @neil can you perhaps do another bump early in your morning with today’s fixes?
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### Author:  [@neil](https://meta.discourse.org/u/neil)
#### Post date: [27 mei 2016 om 15:28 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/13 "2016-05-27T15:28:45Z")
Version has been bumped!
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### Author:  [@sam](https://meta.discourse.org/u/sam)
#### Post date: [28 mei 2016 om 02:10 UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/mailing-list-mode-broken-experience-in-transition-from-1-5-1-6/44863/14 "2016-05-28T02:10:39Z")
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