# Message threading in Mail.app

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [April 13, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521 "2015-04-13T13:27:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author: ![watchmanmonitor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/watchmanmonitor/32/430970_2.png) [@watchmanmonitor](https://meta.discourse.org/u/watchmanmonitor)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/1 "2015-04-13T13:27:46Z")

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Continuing the discussion from [Emails are not threaded in Outlook 2013](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emails-are-not-threaded-in-outlook-2013/16501/24):

> [@Emails are not threaded in Outlook 2013](https://meta.discourse.org/t/emails-are-not-threaded-in-outlook-2013/16501/24):
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> Thunderbird seems to grab the "Re: " prefix and the other clients don’t.

I’m seeing the my iPhone will thread emails I get from Meta, however my Mac OS Laptops won’t. The Mail.app in 10.8 and 10.9 fail to pick up on the relation.

In looking at the headers of messages, I see

```plaintext
In-Reply-To: <topic/27505@meta.discourse.org>
References: <topic/27505@meta.discourse.org>

```

and I wonder.. could the `/` be throwing off the threading? How could I test it with headers showing:

```plaintext
In-Reply-To: <topic27505@meta.discourse.org>
References: <topic27505@meta.discourse.org>

```

Has that been tried already?

One way to solve this is to put a `Re: ` at the start of every email, but it’s a bit awkward when the first post is “re” I don’t know if a conditional "Re: " could be added…

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### Author: ![rumpelsepp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@rumpelsepp](https://meta.discourse.org/u/rumpelsepp)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/2 "2015-04-13T13:41:23Z")

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> [@watchmanmonitor](#):
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> and I wonder.. could the / be throwing off the threading?

Does github emails thread on this client? They use the same concept of IDs.

> [@watchmanmonitor](#):
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> I don’t know if a conditional "Re: " could be added…

from [https://meta.discourse.org/t/customize-subject-format-for-standard-emails/20801:](https://meta.discourse.org/t/customize-subject-format-for-standard-emails/20801:)

```plaintext
%{optional_re}[%{site_name}] %{optional_pm}%{optional_cat}%{topic_title}

```

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### Author: ![watchmanmonitor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/watchmanmonitor/32/430970_2.png) [@watchmanmonitor](https://meta.discourse.org/u/watchmanmonitor)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/3 "2015-04-13T13:52:27Z")

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> [@rumpelsepp](#):
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> Does github emails thread on this client? They use the same concept of IDs.

Github uses / too

Example:

> References: [discourse/discourse/issues/806@github.com](mailto:discourse/discourse/issues/806@github.com)

Thanks for pointing out the how-to topic, I’ve implemented `%{optional_re}` Nice!

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### Author: ![riking](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/riking/32/170938_2.png) [@riking](https://meta.discourse.org/u/riking)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/4 "2015-04-14T00:13:44Z")

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> [@watchmanmonitor](#):
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> Thanks for pointing out the how-to topic, I’ve implemented %{optional\_re} Nice!

It’s there by default… which means you removed it at some point.

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### Author: ![watchmanmonitor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/watchmanmonitor/32/430970_2.png) [@watchmanmonitor](https://meta.discourse.org/u/watchmanmonitor)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/5 "2015-04-14T00:17:15Z")

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I doubt I removed it.. I’ve been using Discourse for a long time and love it 💗 (Despite all my posting about desired changes.) I suspect I started the discourse forums I run before the optional re was a default, but it’s hardly worth digging up.

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/6 "2015-04-14T01:27:03Z")

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I believe you can ask @peternlewis who has [extensive experience with this](https://meta.discourse.org/t/email-notifications-not-grouping-nicely-in-mail-app/14137).

Consensus was this is a bug in mail.app with no known workaround other than the re: thing.

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### Author: ![peternlewis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/peternlewis/32/108888_2.png) [@peternlewis](https://meta.discourse.org/u/peternlewis)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/7 "2015-04-14T03:50:09Z")

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Yes, I believe @watchmanmonitor found the [relevant topic](https://meta.discourse.org/t/email-notifications-not-grouping-nicely-in-mail-app/14137/7) and adjusted the subject line config to always start with Re: which makes Mail happy, so its all good.

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### Author: ![rriemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/rriemann/32/115238_2.png) [@rriemann](https://meta.discourse.org/u/rriemann)
#### Post date: [February 9, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/8 "2016-02-09T12:37:12Z")

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The %{optional\_re} is not part of the default anymore. I have the last beta. @riking

I would have expeced that a click on reset would resolve my issue of non-threaded mails. Hower, I was already on the default. I’m using KMail from KDE and the Re is required.

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### Author: ![system](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/system/32/443519_2.png) [@system](https://meta.discourse.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [December 17, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/9 "2018-12-17T00:11:07Z")

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### Author: ![codinghorror](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/codinghorror/32/110067_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://meta.discourse.org/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [December 17, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/message-threading-in-mail-app/27521/10 "2018-12-17T00:47:48Z")

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