# Multiple tooltips on same target are confusing

**URL:** https://meta.discourse.org/t/multiple-tooltips-on-same-target-are-confusing/42558
**Category:** UX
**Created:** [April 14, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/multiple-tooltips-on-same-target-are-confusing/42558 "2016-04-14T13:59:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author: ![TechnoBear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/technobear/32/40546_2.png) [@TechnoBear](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TechnoBear)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/multiple-tooltips-on-same-target-are-confusing/42558/1 "2016-04-14T13:59:07Z")

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Unsurprisingly, I’m not much given to trying to access tooltips. However, after our recent upgrade to latest, I was trying to check what information was being displayed in the redesigned message pages - which have no column headings - and attempted to use the tooltips. After some considerable time of carefully aiming my mouse at the number and seeing a tooltip which displays only that same number, I eventually discovered by accident that I needed to aim _away_ from the number to get the actual information I wanted.

Some further research here indicates this is a problem in the “replies” column site-wide. The number is wrapped in a span which has `title="number"`, and that sits inside a td which has `title="this topic has X replies etc"`. So to access the more detailed information, you need to hover away from the number. Confusing and unhelpful, IMHO.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/0/8/08b6858dad0bd56e2bd0f037ae76c33c5146f3bb.png)

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 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/d/4/d42fb929c09827ceedd86b807fc7b06082b9ef2d.png)

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I can see no reason for the title on the `<span>`, which merely duplicates the information, so perhaps this could be removed?

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### Author: ![Mittineague](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/mittineague/32/114259_2.png) [@Mittineague](https://meta.discourse.org/u/Mittineague)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/multiple-tooltips-on-same-target-are-confusing/42558/2 "2016-04-14T18:36:40Z")

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There sure is a lot behind a Replies number

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/2/4/24d8439fbad9fa648d5252d86eb6415b72d210fe.gif)

The 4 - 4 does seem rather pointless.  
I’m also thinking the “this topic has 4 replies”, though descriptive, might be better if it somehow indicated that a click would provide navigation options. Though I guess the cursor is already a big clue to that.

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### Author: ![gerhard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/gerhard/32/119479_2.png) [@gerhard](https://meta.discourse.org/u/gerhard)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/multiple-tooltips-on-same-target-are-confusing/42558/3 "2016-04-14T19:01:17Z")

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Well, it makes sense if there are more than 1000 replies.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/f/4/f47c3d7ece921f7d38812b8a4eab3348e421b36d.png)

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### Author: ![TechnoBear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/technobear/32/40546_2.png) [@TechnoBear](https://meta.discourse.org/u/TechnoBear)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2016, 11:45am UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/multiple-tooltips-on-same-target-are-confusing/42558/4 "2016-04-15T11:45:25Z")

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> [@gerhard](#):
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> Well, it makes sense if there are more than 1000 replies.

But I would still argue that if you want to know the exact number of posts, it’s better to have the longer version displayed for clarity. Which is more useful? This:

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/7/8/78825212dfe4d3cdabbf447d9f6311a588b9812c.png)

or this?

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/meta/original/3X/9/3/936a9f49a895024626a13cd8443720304de5c523.png)

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### Author: ![cpradio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/meta/user_avatar/meta.discourse.org/cpradio/32/4970_2.png) [@cpradio](https://meta.discourse.org/u/cpradio)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://meta.discourse.org/t/multiple-tooltips-on-same-target-are-confusing/42558/5 "2016-04-15T12:14:41Z")

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Another thing. I think the number tooltip came out of someone wanting to do a customization and needed the full number, with that said, it could be added as a data attribute instead so it doesn’t create this odd tooltip scenario.
